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Now I know that reading the title the obvious answer would be because the vita is selling terribly, but i'm curous as to this. 

Isn't the fact that the PS Vita is selling so poorly BECAUSE of how Sony isn't putting any more first party games on it? This is something that i've been thinking for a while now.  If the reason Sony doesn't want to support the PS Vita anymore is because of how poorly it is selling, shouldn't they only have themselves to blame for that because of how they don't support it anymore? 

I mean, the PS Vita honestly doesn't even seem to be doing that bad in Japan anymore. I mean, it's not selling amazing by any means but it is selling rather decently/well compared to everyone else. Why? Because Japanese third party devs are actually SUPPORTING it. The Vita in Japan actually keeps getting a lot of support. 

Now this is why i'm wondering about this. If it could make a semi-comeback to going from selling terriblly to rather decently or well in Japan, why does Sony not try and support it anymore? I mean with ANYTHING at all at this point. Why not put a new LocoRoco or Patapon game on it or a handheld GOW game, you know, games that were classics on the PSP.

Games like Tearaway, Killzone: Mercenary, Freedom Wars, etc all seem to be great games judging from reviews and they pushed some hardware, but why does Sony just not put more games on it? 

Looking at the Vita makes me sad because it is a bunch of wasted potential because of how Sony gave up on it not too soon after it launched. 



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I believe you summed it up quite nice with wasted potential.  Sometimes I feel like a Vita.



Yeah... sony gave up on it too fast. They were more worried about the PS4. That ended up beeing a sucess without hardly trying and the Vita was the sacrificial lamb.

I definitly dont understand why they didnt green lit the second uncharted game bend wanted to make. I still think they should make it, even if it loses them some money. They can make up for it later with a remaster release on home console. It would be the last hurrah that the Vita deserves, and given the tools are already developed it wouldnt be super expensive to make.

This is what always happens though. If you don't believe your own system, how can you expect the consumer to? The 3DS was never in a very different situation, but Nintendo was behind it 100% of the way, wich is why it suceeded despite mobile trends. Also, the mishandling of Capcom with monster hunter during the ps3 era ended up costing them dearly. Poor Vita was a victim of incompetent execs.



twintail said:
No, because Sony software did very little to help sell the Vita in it's first few years. Why would that change now?
They did at least bring MLB, Helldivers and RE Rev 2 to the Vita this year. They have not completely abandoned it.

The Vita probably had the most support at launch that Sony has ever given any of their devices.
Many factors in their control and out of their control have led to the Vita being in the position it is now.

The reason you are not seeing Sony put games on the Vita like you suggest is because it makes little financial sense for them to gamble on the Vita when they have another device that is most guaranteed to get them money, the PS4.

The vita has not been doing well in the West for a very long time, what point does it make for their Western studios to put effort into it?
SCEJ has been undergoing a massive reshuffle these last few years. Even their major games are just co-developed by them while they aid an outside dev team.

People need to get over the Vita now. Sony support is not going to change it's fate from here on out. Sony has more important things to deal with while they rebuild and strengthen their brand with the PS4 and possibly even VR. This is what is going to help Sony in the long run: they are just not built for console/ handheld development simultaneously. This was apparent many years ago during the PSP years.

so enjoy your Vita, and enjoy the copious amount of games it gets. The amount of games it has, and will be receiving is incredible. So just enjoy it.


@Bolded: None of these are exclusive or made in mind for the Vita. They are only getting ports to the Vita because there are already console versions. 

Like I said, Japanese developers still are supporting the Vita with actual EXCLUSIVE games for it and that is why it is doing semi-well over there compared to everywhere else.

Sony might not have completely "abandoned" it yet considering they are bringing a new color to NA and all, but they certainly aren't supporting it anymore for the time being. 



Sony was just hoping that those 80 million people that bought the PSP would bite again and buy the Vita really. While Sony has solid first party offerings, I don't think it would be enough to push a HH all that well. Plus, the whole memory card issue and the fact the Vita isn't as easy to hack as the PSP were blows. And if we're considering Japan, Monster Hunter jumping ship to Nintendo was a huge blow.
Putting all of this together, it's no wonder the Vita fizzled out and Sony just decided to focus on the thing that's actually selling.



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I forgot to quote and hit reply instead, but this is @twintail.

 

The entire point of what I was saying was all about first party games, hence the "Why does Sony refuse not to support the PS Vita anymore". 

What was the last actual EXCLUSIVE Vita game Sony put on the Vita and actually tried to support it with. Freedom Wars? Which is why i'm saying why not put another LocoRoco, Pataon, God of War, etc or other classic games from the PSP onto PS Vita.

I did say that Japanese devs were bringing exclusives to the Vita, which is why it is selling semi-well over there, or at least compared to everywhere else.

That was the entire point of this thread. Is the Vita COMPLETELY abandoned by all? No, you're right, obviously there are still some games going to it such as the ones you mentioned and it is still getting good Japanese support, and the new NA color, etc. But has Sony themselves abandoned it first party game wise? Seems so. 

It doesn't matter how many other developers or indies put games on the system when Sony themselves aren't doing shit GAMES wise. You say that there's a lot of PSV/PS4 stuff coming out but let's be real, how is that going to help the Vita when they aren't even exclusive. 

Also I  would like to point out that I don't have a Vita. I made this thread as someone who is considering picking one up, but why would I if I knew that Sony wouldn't even supprot the damn thing anymore. 

Like I said, the Vita is not COMPLETELY abandoned, but Sony sure isn't trying support it anymore. 



JetSetter said:
Sony was just hoping that those 80 million people that bought the PSP would bite again and buy the Vita really. While Sony has solid first party offerings, I don't think it would be enough to push a HH all that well. Plus, the whole memory card issue and the fact the Vita isn't as easy to hack as the PSP were blows. And if we're considering Japan, Monster Hunter jumping ship to Nintendo was a huge blow.
Putting all of this together, it's no wonder the Vita fizzled out and Sony just decided to focus on the thing that's actually selling.


This is the main thing that bothers me. I don't own a Vita, but in a way I feel for Vita owners.

The Wii U isn't selling well either but you don't see Nintendo trying to hope people forget about it and just focus on the 3DS, they are still supporting it.

Seems like Sony just wants to sweep the Vita under the rug and hope people forget about it so they can just focus on PS4. 

Like I said, I understand the Vita isn't selling well being a reason Sony doesn't want to support it anymore, but they aren't even trying to bring up the sales for it anymore. 



Jesus Christ, can we stop this shit finally? Every couple weeks we get someone crying for Sony to support the Vita. F-U-C-K the Vita. It is dead and that is a good thing, it was nothing but a huge waste of resources and I want Sony to not ever waste any more resources on a freaking handheld again. Because everything a Sony handheld represents is a gimped version of their consoles. Yes I know that it's portable and you can use it anywhere, but I'm absolutely certain that handhelds are still for the majority used at home. People bitch that the PS4 has no games and Sonys first party is way behind on supporting that device, if the freaking Vita didn't exist then the PS4 would at this point likely already have a game by Sony Bend and Guerilla Cambridge as well as 1 or 2 more games from Sony Japan, Tearaway would have hit the PS4 way earlier as well.

Stop clamoring for Sony to do something for the Vita.



Has the Vita gotten a single first party exclusive title since its second year? I don't think it has, but somebody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

The fact is, the PS4 killed the Vita. It isn't as if the PS4 was the only factor, but it was the final one that solidified Sony's choice to abandon the handheld. When the PS4 started selling like rapid fire and showed no signs of stopping, suddenly Sony didn't seem to care as much about trying to convince people that first party content was still coming for the the handheld they didn't want to try on anymore. Why try with the Vita when the PS4 is raking in millions on hype alone? And thus the Vita entered rapid decline.

That logic is still king because the PS4 is still selling stupidly well, and now the Vita is old enough that Sony doesn't really want to try with it. I mean, let's face it. We're pushing on towards the end of the road for the current generation of handhelds. Even if the Vita is still likely able to match whatever Nintendo brings into next generation on a hardware level, nobody will care because the Vita will be old news.

If you want contributing factors that killed the Vita, I'd say little to no worthwhile advertising, the memory card situation, and Sony not seeming to understand what a price cut is are the major contributing factors outside of the PS4's overwhelming success.

Sony could probably push a ton of Vita's if they issued an official price cut on both the system and memory cards. All of it is old enough at this point that prices should be able to sink reasonably far. I don't mean some piddly $20 price drop on the system and a 10% drop on memory cards either. I'm thinking more like $60 off of the regular Vita $199.99 MSRP, and a solid 40% drop on memory card prices. Unfortunately, Sony only seems willing to drop the price of Vita related goods when the word "clearance" is involved.



 

DerNebel said:

Jesus Christ, can we stop this shit finally? Every couple weeks we get someone crying for Sony to support the Vita. F-U-C-K the Vita. It is dead and that is a good thing, it was nothing but a huge waste of resources and I want Sony to not ever waste any more resources on a freaking handheld again. Because everything a Sony handheld represents is a gimped version of their consoles. Yes I know that it's portable and you can use it anywhere, but I'm absolutely certain that handhelds are still for the majority used at home. People bitch that the PS4 has no games and Sonys first party is way behind on supporting that device, if the freaking Vita didn't exist then the PS4 would at this point likely already have a game by Sony Bend and Guerilla Cambridge as well as 1 or 2 more games from Sony Japan, Tearaway would have hit the PS4 way earlier as well.

Stop clamoring for Sony to do something for the Vita.

This reads more like you just prefer consoles instead of handhelds, not whether you think the PS VIta is worth supporting or not. 

Like I get it, you love your precious PS4 and want more games for it, but that means Sony should just stop supporting anything else and only focus on the PS4?

You could easily say Nintendo as well should only focus on the 3DS because that is doing excellent and the Wii U isn't selling too well, but they are still supporting the Wii U.