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Faelco on 03 September 2015
DerNebel said:
Faelco said:

I played (and am still playing) TLOU multi-player, not "a lot" but enough to know the weapons and skills. I even bought some of these "pay to win" DLCs.

I think that I used each of them once. That's all. I still use one skill sometimes in one of my builds, but that's it. It's not "pay to win", because it's balanced (you have 13 points for a build and each weapon you choose cost points) and is not really worth it, except if you like the playstyle of a weapon. If not, you can keep the base weapons and skill, and you won't be weaker than the others. I can use a lot of different weapons and skills, but at the end, I always come back to my bow and stealth (base weapon and skill IIRC). It just depends on what you like, it has nothing to do with power or balance.

Yes, it would be better if everything was free, but in this case there wouldn't be any developer to manage this, or we should buy a lot of hats to cover the costs. If some people want to pay a rifle shooting 4 bullets in a row instead of 3 but at the price of 1 normal rifle plus another weapon or skill, I won't blame them.

 

EDIT : Didn't Mario Kart sell a DLC with new races and modes, and maybe even new karts and characters ? What a shame... 

Is Mario Kart the topic of the thread? I don't think so.

 

I know... And? The subject is "Naughty Dog's greed". It's not greed if the rest of the industry does it too, it's normal business. That's all. And that's why talking about other companies doing the same thing is relevant IMO.



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Tachikoma on 03 September 2015
Samus Aran said:
DerNebel said:
Samus Aran said:
It's ok when Naughty Dog does it. UC4 will still get 95%+ on metacritic even though every other developer would get slammed for this.

What score would Super Mario Maker have gotten if it had micro-transactions to purchase additional enemies, power-ups, etc.?

If that is all you have to add here, then just leave the thread.

The reactions in this thread more than prove my statement.

But hey, enjoy that hat bundle at $7.

Weren't you upset that co-op was locked behind a $15 amiibo in Shovel Knight? I guess pay-to-win online multiplayer is better?

An entire game mode for $15 that affects gameplay versus cosmetic hat packs for $7, that don't affect gameplay.

 

Hmm let me see..



Frogger on 03 September 2015
DerNebel said:

You should maybe elaborate on that if you want people to react to it. ;)


The Smash DLC is massively overpriced for what you're getting. But it gets a free pass because it's Smash and its Sakurai. Better?



Mirson on 03 September 2015
mornelithe said:
Mirson said:

Keyword prior to launch. We're still months away. I don't consider what they're giving us complete considering the dlc is part of the story.

Yeah, and?  See, I was wrong, Left Behind was announced prior to launch, seems you just ignored the other posters who corrected you, otherwise keeping up this charade would be rather embarassing.

I'm just saying ND shouldn't get a pass on something other developers get blasted for. If a voucher is included for early adopters, then my hats to them.



DerNebel on 03 September 2015
Faelco said:
DerNebel said:

Is Mario Kart the topic of the thread? I don't think so.

 

I know... And? The subject is "Naughty Dog's greed". It's not greed if the rest of the industry does it too, it's normal business. That's all. And that's why talking about other companies doing the same thing is relevant IMO.

I don't think it's relevant to specifically pick out other games (suspiciously even from opposing first parties) to make a point like this. Nintendo could be asking for an arm and a leg to play MK8 and that still wouldn't make me feel better about ND's practices, cause at the end of the day I want to play UC4 in multiplayer and am not interested in MK8, so that's the game where it's going to affect me, IF they lock the best weapons behind a paywall or something.

Sure doing something like Spemanig and pointing to other games in which a similar practice bugs him is fair, but just pointing fingers at other games to make ND look less bad is pretty useless imo.



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arcaneguyver on 03 September 2015

Yep. ND makes great single player games, but they tend to shit up their multiplayer over time. Exemplary in one field is no excuse for bad practice in the other.



vkaraujo on 03 September 2015
spemanig said:
DerNebel said:

You should maybe elaborate on that if you want people to react to it. ;)


The Smash DLC is massively overpriced for what you're getting. But it gets a free pass because it's Smash and its Sakurai. Better?

I think that's because everything except the characters are just cosmetic, and the characters themselfs are below the average for fighting games.

I am mostly okay with it. If we were to complain about Nintendo DLC, i would look to FE:Awakening, a game i love, but DLC cost is just crazy.



DerNebel on 03 September 2015
spemanig said:
DerNebel said:

You should maybe elaborate on that if you want people to react to it. ;)


The Smash DLC is massively overpriced for what you're getting. But it gets a free pass because it's Smash and its Sakurai. Better?

Dunno, but maybe it'll lead to someone wanting to comment on your point now. Lol

I personally haven't played Smash 4 so no idea.



KLAMarine on 03 September 2015

If you don't like it, don't buy it.



Sixteenvolt420 on 03 September 2015

Hey, if people want to pay for the dlc, let them. I rarely buy any of the extra stuff for games. One game that i probably would buy extra dlc for is Fallout 4, since i'll be spending a few hundred hours on it, for sure.