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endy.G said:
Teeqoz said:


Evidence says otherwise...


what evidence?
because ps4 is often hovering around the 50 in the hourly?
that does not euqal to good sales and an listing in the monthly.

the xb1 500gb no game sku is also often hovering around the 60 - 80s and does not chart in the monthly
bloodborn in july. was never high in the hourly. primeday sales happed. it shoot to #1 in the hourly and #3 or somthing like that in the mothly.
it fall off in the hourly quickly, but ended up #14 for the whole month, while being high in the top 100 hourly for just a few days

hourly sales ranking does not automatically equal to high sales for the month

 

 

you need to understand first how amazon charts work, before you come to any "evidence conclusion"
tl;dr amazon monthly charts and tracking of the ps4 no games sku was never broken and is fixed finally, just because the sku is charting now.


No, I actually have real evidence. It might be surprising, but the author of the Amazon threads pay rather close attention to the Amazon charts, and there was at least one item that never once charted above the PS4 standalone in the hourlies, but still managed to chart in the monthly while the PS4 standalone was absent, namely the PS4 vertical stand (http://www.amazon.com/PS4-Vertical-Stand-Cooling-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TEDK8FQ/ref=zg_bsar_videogames_99 ). Now, obviously, had the charts been functioning properly like you claim, then that couldn't have happened, which tells me that the monthly charts weren't functioning properly.



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Teeqoz said:

 


No, I actually have real evidence. It might be surprising, but the author of the Amazon threads pay rather close attention to the Amazon charts, and there was at least one item that never once charted above the PS4 standalone in the hourlies, but still managed to chart in the monthly while the PS4 standalone was absent, namely the PS4 vertical stand (http://www.amazon.com/PS4-Vertical-Stand-Cooling-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TEDK8FQ/ref=zg_bsar_videogames_99 ). Now, obviously, had the charts been functioning properly like you claim, then that couldn't have happened, which tells me that the monthly charts weren't functioning properly.


that's further proof, that the hourly is no idication to monthly ;)
i ask for the proof why this was broken before, but is fixxed now. what is different now? ps4 is in the monthly? and when it will be out of top 100 is it broken again? ps4 no game sku could be # 115 - 150 all the time..

 

thehourly is still no actual sales ranking. It's an algorithm that takes actual sales, projected sales, and advertising into account and makes a top 100 list



endy.G said:
Teeqoz said:


No, I actually have real evidence. It might be surprising, but the author of the Amazon threads pay rather close attention to the Amazon charts, and there was at least one item that never once charted above the PS4 standalone in the hourlies, but still managed to chart in the monthly while the PS4 standalone was absent, namely the PS4 vertical stand (http://www.amazon.com/PS4-Vertical-Stand-Cooling-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TEDK8FQ/ref=zg_bsar_videogames_99 ). Now, obviously, had the charts been functioning properly like you claim, then that couldn't have happened, which tells me that the monthly charts weren't functioning properly.


that's further proof, that the hourly is no idication to monthly ;)
i ask for the proof why this was broken before, but is fixxed now. what is different now? ps4 is in the monthly? and when it will be out of top 100 is it broken again? ps4 no game sku could be # 115 - 150 all the time..

 

thehourly is still no actual sales ranking. It's an algorithm that takes actual sales, projected sales, and advertising into account and makes a top 100 list

Amazon Best Sellers

Our most popular products based on sales. Updated hourly.

Had it instead said:

Amazon Best Sellers

Our most popular products. Updated hourly.

Then I'd say you were right, but it doesn't say that.
Alas, you seem set on that I'm just saying there were issues because I'm biased or whatever, so I'm not gonna bother replying anymore to you.

 



Battlefront prediction: ( November only)
[PS4] 1,500,000
[XB1] 1,000,000

Total: 2,500,000



endy.G said:
Teeqoz said:


No, I actually have real evidence. It might be surprising, but the author of the Amazon threads pay rather close attention to the Amazon charts, and there was at least one item that never once charted above the PS4 standalone in the hourlies, but still managed to chart in the monthly while the PS4 standalone was absent, namely the PS4 vertical stand (http://www.amazon.com/PS4-Vertical-Stand-Cooling-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TEDK8FQ/ref=zg_bsar_videogames_99 ). Now, obviously, had the charts been functioning properly like you claim, then that couldn't have happened, which tells me that the monthly charts weren't functioning properly.


that's further proof, that the hourly is no idication to monthly ;)
i ask for the proof why this was broken before, but is fixxed now. what is different now? ps4 is in the monthly? and when it will be out of top 100 is it broken again? ps4 no game sku could be # 115 - 150 all the time..

thehourly is still no actual sales ranking. It's an algorithm that takes actual sales, projected sales, and advertising into account and makes a top 100 list

That still does not discount what Teeqoz has said, prinz. Let me break it down to make it easier for you:

- Product A constantly sells more than Product B on the hourlies
- Product B is in the monthly charts, but Product A is not

There is a gaping inconsistency because we know for sure that Product A has sold more than Product B for the month based on the hourly chart observations. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that there is something wrong with the Amazon system.



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Madden bundle nearly in TOP 100, #125.
Still doomed :P but is doing better at least...



Black Ops 3 PS4 physical at #3 and PS4 digital (download code) at #34. XBO physical at #7, download code doesn't chart.

Kinda makes you wonder how much of CoD's decline is due to digital.



Teeqoz said:
Black Ops 3 PS4 physical at #3 and PS4 digital (download code) at #34. XBO physical at #7, download code doesn't chart.

Kinda makes you wonder how much of CoD's decline is due to digital.


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Aura7541 said:

 

That still does not discount what Teeqoz has said, prinz. Let me break it down to make it easier for you:

- Product A constantly sells more than Product B on the hourlies
- Product B is in the monthly charts, but Product A is not

There is a gaping inconsistency because we know for sure that Product A has sold more than Product B for the month based on the hourly chart observations. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that there is something wrong with the Amazon system.


that's just wrong
the monthy chart is not and was never broken
the ps4 standalone bundle was never tracked wrong.

so why exactly should only that single product be tracked wrong and all other are fine?
what exactly has changed in the last 3day on the ps4 standalone, that it is not anymore tracked wrong?

 

this is pure conspiracy theroy bs
the only logical to conclude is the fact, that hourly charts and ranking does not equal directly to montly chart and rankings. because the hourly chart is no actual sales tracking chart.

 

Read this!!

https://ebooksuccess4free.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/amazon-sales-rank-secret-algorithm-exposed/

 



endy.G said:
Aura7541 said:

That still does not discount what Teeqoz has said, prinz. Let me break it down to make it easier for you:

- Product A constantly sells more than Product B on the hourlies
- Product B is in the monthly charts, but Product A is not

There is a gaping inconsistency because we know for sure that Product A has sold more than Product B for the month based on the hourly chart observations. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that there is something wrong with the Amazon system.


that's just wrong
the monthy chart is not and was never broken
the ps4 standalone bundle was never tracked wrong.

so why exactly should only that single product be tracked wrong and all other are fine?
what exactly has changed in the last 3day on the ps4 standalone, that it is not anymore tracked wrong?

 

this is pure conspiracy theroy bs
the only logical to conclude is the fact, that hourly charts and ranking does not equal directly to montly chart and rankings. because the hourly chart is no actual sales tracking chart.

 

Read this!!

https://ebooksuccess4free.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/amazon-sales-rank-secret-algorithm-exposed/

 

Because it was the only product changing categories it was listed under.... Show me an Xbox One ranking for DVDs one week and Bluray the next.