Its not that they get "get out of jail free card". Sony can actually develop their own games even when they commission games. Name a AAA hot IP outside of Fable or Foza that Microsoft has been give credit for that was seen as a hit. If you can find the right answer the argument that they are depended on third party for IP's would make more sense. Sony and Nintendo can both make their own IP's. Nintendo for some reason does not, but they have a wealth of potential.

Really?

You see, like Halo, Gears was heading to be a totally different game than what it is today.

Mr Eric Nylund, a MS veteran writer (wrote Halo bible) penned down the characters and the universe of the COG soldiers.

MS gave Gears a more ambitious and single player blockbuster grandeur that we know today.

It was going to be just an mp game like Unreal tournament.

To be fair, Stage is one of the few who are closest to being neutral in these type of discussions. Not that long ago, he sided with MS in a discussion with me while I sided with sony. Trying to paint him as a sony fan to discredit his opinion is useless.

I like how you start by saying there is no exception, then go on to explain that there is an exception and why it exists for you. Thanks.

Perhaps not, perhaps MS said "We want co-op for Xbox Live" and that's a pretty integral part of of gears as an IP. Defining even. I don't mind people mulling this, but unless you can define it and prove it...we will never know.

But it's interesting how this is perceived differently. Microsofts deal with Epic is almost no different than Sony deals right now with BB, The Order and Until Dawn, the only difference is they took ownership of the IP after it released then before.

One is "paying studios to think up ip" and the other is "collaboratave".

lol

As we are ignoring established ip, taking into account this generation thus far, that Driveclub and Knack are good examples of Sonys internally developed games?

Would you say that Driveclub (Released: OCT 2014) to Uncharted 4 (Due Spring 2016) is not a drought of new internally developed games?

I never said that to begin with. You're twisting my words and of course I (like you) am fallible so mistakes can happen. Regardless, I am stating that I want Microsoft to have the advantages that Sony has (Because it would force Sony to truly work strategically). If they continue to depend on third party instead of making their own IP's themselves they will have another drought just like they did the 360 era. There is no problem with commissioning third party, but if you dont make your own stuff, it becomes obvious that either you wont or your can't. Does this make anymore sense to you?

So basically Sony has beaten them at their own game and now they want to use Sony's strategy and deliver REAL exclusive games.I said last generation that MS should make their won games or own the franchises they publish.

They do not own Recore,Quantum Break or Scalebond so those games do not count and they can not sell anything other than Gears and Halo.As usual Phil is talking out his rear as mentioned before.People are delusional for eating his cooking as he promised plenty of Japanese exclusives were in development last year and where are they?

He has not shown me anything of fact yet so chalk this up as more PR and damage control statement.People will defend MS to the death though lol.

The negative is that they never deliver on their promises and MS fans don't admit that.Gee whatever happened to Milo,those hybrid Kinect games that never came out,smart glass,the cloud,illumiroom and those Japanese exclusives mentioned last year?
Come on now,facts are facts.Where is Phantum Dust?

I don't know what you're trying to do here, I really don't, but it looks ridiculous.  I'm going to assume that you're trying to work some kind of poorly executed parody--at least, I hope so--but whatever it is, it's really, really not working.  You should probably abandon this train-wreck quote-tree and find a different way to express your opinions.

Seriously, your posts aren't even making sense.

They own Recore, Quantum Break and Scalebound. If it was left to Microsofts devices to make those games themselves, yes they would tank, but Microsoft could create a badass studio with the money they have and create a great game. The potential is always there. Sony learned that lesson back in the 90's.