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Frogger on 06 July 2015

I think it's stupid that it's even a discussion. Him being black shouldn't be a talking point on either side. It's not "good for minorities." It's good for John Boyega. You know what's good for minorities? Not always bringing up insignificant shit like this. I'm black and the most fucking annoying thing in the world is the false idea that I need to be "represented."

Blacks don't need some starring role in a movie. Just because someone is a minor black character, doesn't mean they're "token" or a "stereotype" or stupid shit like that. I don't need anyones help to justify my race, so a black guy starring in a movie isn't some black "win." They are just another character with another skin color. You know what's racially insensitive? The prevalent thought process that one minor black character implies that all black people are now assumedly minor. There's one damsel in distress? Must mean the director is calling all women weak, right? One mean gay character? The director totally hates gays.

And now, suddenly one black guy gets a starring role, and it's a good thing because? Because all black people are strong and powerful leaders now? We're not individuals who have to earn leading roles based off our talents, but a race who needs to be represented entirely as something only a statistical fraction of ANY demographic would fit under. Exactly.

The sooner people stop making a big deal about shit like this, the sooner racism really ends. He's just a guy with a lead roll. Good for him. He alone earned it for he alone. That's where it ends.



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McDonaldsGuy on 06 July 2015
Aeolus451 said:
McDonaldsGuy said:


Some say he is the new Luke. The new Big Three is: Daisy as Rey, John as Finn, and Oscar Isaac as Poe Dameron (what a dumb name).

I  think Episode VII will be huge because of Luke, Han, and Leia but I think after Episode VII no one will care.


I doubt that he's the main character. Poe would more likely be it. I personally think there should be more hispanics or asians in films to be fair. I read that disney will be ignoring the expanded universe (a series of books, i believe) with these films. In some sense, fans may just ignore this new trilogy because it doesn't follow the established storyline.

I was ready to consider this movie canon until I saw they are just repeating the original three movies: the Empire is still around, Stormtroopers, Star Destroyers, etc. etc. I felt Return of the Jedi was a satisfying conclusion to that arc.

There seems to be no reason to watch anything after Episode VII because the novelty of Han, Luke, and Leia appearing on the big screen again will be gone.



AbbathTheGrim on 06 July 2015

My gripe with him is that that role should've gone straight to Samuel L. Jackson.

I fucking know he was fucking Mace Windu, but if they gave Mr. Jackson a blond wig to make him look like a new character they could have definitely pulled it off.



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AlfredoTurkey on 06 July 2015

It screams "lets get a black guy in here so we can increase minority interest"...



Soundwave on 06 July 2015
spemanig said:
I think it's stupid that it's even a discussion. Him being black shouldn't be a talking point on either side. It's not "good for minorities." It's good for John Boyega. You know what's good for minorities? Not always bringing up insignificant shit like this. I'm black and the most fucking annoying thing in the world is the false idea that I need to be "represented."

Blacks don't need some starring role in a movie. Just because someone is a minor black character, doesn't mean they're "token" or a "stereotype" or stupid shit like that. I don't need anyones help to justify my race, so a black guy starring in a movie isn't some black "win." They are just another character with another skin color. You know what's racially insensitive? The prevalent thought process that one minor black character implies that all black people are now assumedly minor. There's one damsel in distress? Must mean the director is calling all women weak, right? One mean gay character? The director totally hates gays.

And now, suddenly one black guy gets a starring role, and it's a good thing because? Because all black people are strong and powerful leaders now? We're not individuals who have to earn leading roles based off our talents, but a race who needs to be represented entirely as something only a statistical fraction of ANY demographic would fit under. Exactly.

The sooner people stop making a big deal about shit like this, the sooner racism really ends. He's just a guy with a lead roll. Good for him. He alone earned it for he alone. That's where it ends.


Nailed it. 



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Aeolus451 on 06 July 2015
McDonaldsGuy said:
Aeolus451 said:
McDonaldsGuy said:


Some say he is the new Luke. The new Big Three is: Daisy as Rey, John as Finn, and Oscar Isaac as Poe Dameron (what a dumb name).

I  think Episode VII will be huge because of Luke, Han, and Leia but I think after Episode VII no one will care.


I doubt that he's the main character. Poe would more likely be it. I personally think there should be more hispanics or asians in films to be fair. I read that disney will be ignoring the expanded universe (a series of books, i believe) with these films. In some sense, fans may just ignore this new trilogy because it doesn't follow the established storyline.

I was ready to consider this movie canon until I saw they are just repeating the original three movies: the Empire is still around, Stormtroopers, Star Destroyers, etc. etc. I felt Return of the Jedi was a satisfying conclusion to that arc.

There seems to be no reason to watch anything after Episode VII because the novelty of Han, Luke, and Leia appearing on the big screen again will be gone.


Where did you hear or read that? From what I understand this is supposed to take place after the emperor and vader dies.



bobfulci on 06 July 2015
spemanig said:
I think it's stupid that it's even a discussion. Him being black shouldn't be a talking point on either side. It's not "good for minorities." It's good for John Boyega. You know what's good for minorities? Not always bringing up insignificant shit like this. I'm black and the most fucking annoying thing in the world is the false idea that I need to be "represented."

Blacks don't need some starring role in a movie. Just because someone is a minor black character, doesn't mean they're "token" or a "stereotype" or stupid shit like that. I don't need anyones help to justify my race, so a black guy starring in a movie isn't some black "win." They are just another character with another skin color. You know what's racially insensitive? The prevalent thought process that one minor black character implies that all black people are now assumedly minor. There's one damsel in distress? Must mean the director is calling all women weak, right? One mean gay character? The director totally hates gays.

And now, suddenly one black guy gets a starring role, and it's a good thing because? Because all black people are strong and powerful leaders now? We're not individuals who have to earn leading roles based off our talents, but a race who needs to be represented entirely as something only a statistical fraction of ANY demographic would fit under. Exactly.

The sooner people stop making a big deal about shit like this, the sooner racism really ends. He's just a guy with a lead roll. Good for him. He alone earned it for he alone. That's where it ends.

No, I would say as soon as things like Affirmitive Action ends will we have made some sort of step toward " equality" or whatever it is. One ofvthe biggest problems for black people is, in my own opinion, the fact that they cry racism over EVERYTHING. didn't get a job? Must be racism. Didn't get generally anything you want? It MUST be evil racism. I wondered if Boyega really was the first choice for the character or is this Disneys attempt at adding color to Star Wars. Take a look at the Marvel films as an excellent example of this nonsense. Johnny Blaze is black? And Will Smith is Deadpool? It's political correctness to a nauseating degree. And before anyone attacks me, ask yourself questions like this: how would you feel if they cast an Asian as Thor? Or how about a woman? What if the role of the Black Panther went to Ryan Gosling? Would that be "fine" and "exciting?" I am guessing not....



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vivster on 06 July 2015

The best conversations start with "I'm not a racist, but"^^



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McDonaldsGuy on 06 July 2015
Aeolus451 said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
Aeolus451 said:
McDonaldsGuy said:


Some say he is the new Luke. The new Big Three is: Daisy as Rey, John as Finn, and Oscar Isaac as Poe Dameron (what a dumb name).

I  think Episode VII will be huge because of Luke, Han, and Leia but I think after Episode VII no one will care.


I doubt that he's the main character. Poe would more likely be it. I personally think there should be more hispanics or asians in films to be fair. I read that disney will be ignoring the expanded universe (a series of books, i believe) with these films. In some sense, fans may just ignore this new trilogy because it doesn't follow the established storyline.

I was ready to consider this movie canon until I saw they are just repeating the original three movies: the Empire is still around, Stormtroopers, Star Destroyers, etc. etc. I felt Return of the Jedi was a satisfying conclusion to that arc.

There seems to be no reason to watch anything after Episode VII because the novelty of Han, Luke, and Leia appearing on the big screen again will be gone.


Where did you hear or read that? From what I understand this is supposed to take place after the emperor and vader dies.

I think they are just renaming the Rebellion as the "resistance" and the Empire is now "the new order." Sounds like bad fan fiction.



Airaku on 06 July 2015

I'm totally for it! After all his character is based on Kyle Katarn. I'm guessing he's going to be developing big time over the course of the films. I kind of wish we just got Kyle but.... I guess the timeline is messed up and I guess he is now and EU character. Even though he's the one that got the plans so the rebels can destroy the Death Star. Sounds like the Star Wars spin off film is going to change that..... Oh well at least we get a character based on Kyle but some fans are none to pleased about this.