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Can Nintendo Win?

LOL NO 204 42.77%
 
maybe...? 209 43.82%
 
uh... 64 13.42%
 
Total:477

Cant believe people are claiming Sony won or even had and amazing conference. Multi plats are a deciding factor all of a sudden? This was by far one of the worst Sony conferences. Just because a game was in development hell for 8 years, was announced two E3 ago and returns its somehow a surprise? Not only that its revealed as nothing special or amazing at all. Only thing that has me in awe was that robot dinosaur game, other than that it was horrible with all that COD, Destiny DLC. If FF7 remake was exclusive it would have been a decent conference. So sad theres no worth while games coming THIS YEAR.



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Nintendo could "win" E3, but does it really matter who the winner is? Thus far there's been plenty of games revealed and shown which have piqued my interest and next year looks like a real winner for anyone who has a vague interest in gaming. No doubt Nintendo will show plenty of games which add to that and compound this fact as well.

Does it matter who "wins" E3? Ofcourse not. Trying to pick a winner is fraught with danger and different people will see things differently due to various preferences and allegiances. So long as there's games which you like the look of, then the real winner is you and the gamer in general.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

I don't think Sony's conference was that awe-inspiring. They've done a great job PR wise, but ultimately Shenmue 3 and FFVII Remake will be available on PC at least. The fact that The Last Guardian is definitely coming is great, but I didn't like the exclusive DLC on COD (hated it when MS did it) or the timed exclusivity for FFVII. If you're going for exclusive content, invest in it yourself, don't moneyhat or leave it to Kickstarter. It was annoying when MS did it and it's annoying now, especially when Sony have such a large network of development teams.

Nintendo and Microsoft have to do more at E3 because they have the lower install bases and less mainstream awareness. Sony have an easier time of it as the market leader, already riding on a wave of goodwill with PS4. Personally I think both Sony and Microsoft had good shows, but neither of them did anything to change the short-term dynamic of the market. Microsoft finally seem to have a more distinctive and convincing vision of their role in the games industry, something that's been lacking since they revealed Kinect and lost focus with the 360. That could take years to pay off, though, and isn't going to change much here and now. Sony didn't need to do anything much to 'win' E3, but they very cleverly played into the hype machine with The Last Guardian, FFVII Remake and Shenmue 3. Even then, two of those games aren't exclusive, and one of them is a Kickstarter project, so I think the spin is more impressive than the substance, for Sony. (With 'substance' I'm not downplaying the games, I'm particularly excited about Shenmue 3, and have put money down for the PC physical edition)

As for Nintendo, short of revealing Zelda is coming in 2015 with a mind-blowing trailer, it's going to be a bit of a fun sideshow. 3DS is winding down and Wii U is never going to be commercially successful. That being said, I hope Nintendo do what they did last year, which was act in such an ebullient and positive manner that the immediate commercial reality didn't matter at E3. They're on a roll quality wise, so announce some spin-offs and smaller titles to complement their existing 2015 slate, and hopefully have Star Fox and something else as big end of year games. Announce some top-tier games for 2016, and they'll have had a good show, but again, nothing that changes the dynamic on the market. Importantly, though, Nintendo are cultivating a reputation that will stand them in very good stead when they finally unveil NX.

Moreso than Sony and even Microsoft, Nintendo are going to pitch their wares at a small core audience. Hopefully that means some fan favourite projects will come along (Metroid, F Zero?), which goes down well at E3. I honestly believe Super Mario Maker--launched earlier with Wii U at a lower price--could have been a game changer, but as it is, it's too little, too late. This will be the last E3 where Wii U and 3DS are the main sources of attention. Nintendo have got off to a good start by bringing out Smash DLC (which saved 20 minutes of broadcast time from the Event) and EarthBound Beginnings, so hopefully they'll build on that. Next year's E3 is going to be the really interesting one, though, for Nintendo.



Maybe : they just need Shenmue 4, FFVIII remake, Star Wars Battlefront 2 and Black Ops 4



Why not?



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I think Nintendo will have few new Wii U games, which is what I really want. I'm expecting NX holiday 2016, so think they will be holding back, leading to a decent, but underwhelming, show.



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“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Even if they have a surprising show with Zelda, new Metroid prime and Golden Sun or fire emblem, there is no beating what Sony did last night. I can't imagine a way. Sony already won this E3.



It would be tough, Sony's was pretty fantastic.

That being said I do expect Nintendo to have a good event, just not sure if it will be Sony good.

Personally for me to win a 3D Metroid has to be shown, Star Fox needs to look amazing, new 3D Mario, something glorious and 3rd party (that Chrono Trigger music in square's teaser would need to be a sequel for 3DS....doubtful), Zelda will need to be shown despite them saying it's not happening.

I still don't know if that's enough and I don't even think we're getting all of that.



Or you know, Pokemon on Wii U.



Sony's and Nintendo's approach to E3 is very different.
Sony likes to show some big projects, build a lot of hype between fans - but all of this for some future days.
Nintendo on the other side is known to concentrate on the titles which will be in shops holydays 2015/start of 2016.

So for me Nintendo's E3 is to see which games I will be buying next half a year. And Sony's E3 - is to see what gamers will be talking about on forums next 3 years. Both is good, no direct fight or win here.

But currently not MS not Sony didn't show me the games to buy their consoles.