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Yes! Good news. Hopefully they surprise us with another great console like the Wii. Wii U is so boring compared to the original.



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The surprise would be making a standard system, so I hope they do that.



Mummelmann said:

"However, if you only expand upon existing hardware, it’s dull"

Perhaps that sentence will put an end to the belief that the Wii U is part of the Nintendo's next big thing. Also; I still don't see any proper evidence that this isn't in fact a console, I still believe that this is the successor to the Wii U and 3DS all in one. I also still believe that it will be released in late 2016, it makes zero sense for a company like Nintendo, or anyone else for that matter, to spend this much time talking about something they'll release in 2-3 years or more, I'm not even sure that that has ever happened in consumer electronics.
They're also letting the recently announced mobile move and NX talk completely overshadow most 3DS and especially Wii U news; none of this is in any way compatible with a view where this is something introduced several years from now and where they intend to keep the 3DS, let alone the Wii U, as a contender on the market for very long.

How much has Nintendo actually talked about it?  The media has gone absolutely bonkers with it but I haven't seen Nintendo say much about it other than this generic statement they make all the ne time about hardware.  And Nintendo has made reference to upcoming hardware before when it was years away.  The Wii was referenced in codename in 2004 iirc, a full year before it was seen and a full two years before it launched as the Wii.  



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Nuvendil said:
Mummelmann said:

"However, if you only expand upon existing hardware, it’s dull"

Perhaps that sentence will put an end to the belief that the Wii U is part of the Nintendo's next big thing. Also; I still don't see any proper evidence that this isn't in fact a console, I still believe that this is the successor to the Wii U and 3DS all in one. I also still believe that it will be released in late 2016, it makes zero sense for a company like Nintendo, or anyone else for that matter, to spend this much time talking about something they'll release in 2-3 years or more, I'm not even sure that that has ever happened in consumer electronics.
They're also letting the recently announced mobile move and NX talk completely overshadow most 3DS and especially Wii U news; none of this is in any way compatible with a view where this is something introduced several years from now and where they intend to keep the 3DS, let alone the Wii U, as a contender on the market for very long.

How much has Nintendo actually talked about it?  The media has gone absolutely bonkers with it but I haven't seen Nintendo say much about it other than this generic statement they make all the ne time about hardware.  And Nintendo has made reference to upcoming hardware before when it was years away.  The Wii was referenced in codename in 2004 iirc, a full year before it was seen and a full two years before it launched as the Wii.  


The Wii example doesn't really work that well though, Nintendo was in a sound position financially back then despite the low installed base of the GC and came off of another generation where they were very far behind the market leader. They also gave the original Xbox a real battle for second place with the Gamecube, they could bide their time and were pretty safe all things considered, this is clearly not the case with the Wii U, which managed to be caught in months by one competitor and the other within less than a year despite the one year head-start. The Wii U was born out of more desperation and haste when the Wii started plummeting at an alarming rate on sales charts and the competition kept on growing until they peaked in their 6th and 7th years, respectively. The ongoing changes in the market also caused Nintendo to merge concepts that did not mix all that well.

The Wii U was announced in late April 2011 and launched in November 2012, the same was the case with the 3DS; announced March 2010 and released less than a year after that, in February 2011. The Wii's cycle is not the norm, everything from announcements to style and shape, to sales curve and lack of longevity for a market leader; it was a console that went against most norms in the industry. And it's not like Nintendo were in a bad place financially at this time (the DS was actually still selling very well when the 3DS was revealed and even when it launched); they have been losing money for a few years now and have more incentive than ever to move quickly, a lot more so than at the end of the Wii's or the DS' cycle.

No, I find this scenario highly unlikely; that Nintendo will somehow sit on a grossly underperforming console (they will just barely make their 3.6 million for the fiscal year, which was cut down in historical fashion from 9 million consoles, that speaks volumes of the current situation) for several more years, losing more and more support and relevance in an important market and they also need a device that can compete more fairly and efficiently (and cheaper) against the smart/mobile devices, the 3DS is simply not up to the task and was never designed for it at any rate, especially in the West (don't show me N3DS numbers, I already have them and we're seeing sales dropping down and heading for normal levels again as we speak, all it's doing is stall the inevitable drops we'll see yoy in 2015).

There is no reason for Nintendo to keep grinding gears that are stuck; people mentioned that "they won't burn the installed base of the Wii U like that and release a new console that early!" when the reality is that both can and will if they see a shot at regaining some of their 250 million ++ customers from the 7th gen, they will drop the 9.5 (by late 2016, the Wii U should have an installed base of around 15-15.5 million or so; still not a huge number) million Wii U owners in a flash and so would any other company concerned about their future. Sony burned their customers with the PS3 when it released and then made amends; this has turned out pretty well for them as the PS4's sales will show if you look at the numbers, if they had sat idly by and done nothing, they would likely have lost a massive chunk of marketshare (even bigger than the PS3 did) and yes; it cost them a lot but Nintendo have shown red figures for some time now with no imminent signs of great improvements and don't have any divisions to sell off or fall back on, they have nothing to gain from forcing the Wii U's lifespan beyond late 2016 and 3DS' sales will be marginal at best by then and in dire need of replacement.



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The biggest surprise will be if Nintendo don't use the 14 year old broadway microprocessor in the new console's cpu.



This doesn't really confirm or deny much of anything. It can only grant us some level of suspicions on what could or could not happen. It's malleable enough of a statement that it doesn't have to be a bad thing. Of course I am aware of Iwata/Nintendo's track record, but I will remain neutral on what this news means.



"surprise, we don't know what we're doing"



This is so like Nintendo... keeping everything secretive to 'surprise' the fans. Hopefully the NX actually does



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Oh my God Iwata, no. Just give us a better DS or something. Everyone else is just making more powerful systems and that's working for them. This is scaring me...then again the Fusion aspect kind of gives me hope. That in itself may be the surprise of cross compatibility. Having the same library on handheld as a console would speed up development and overall be one huge surprise.