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Aerys on 26 February 2015

I can only say i look forward to bump this thread in....Let's say 12 months



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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uran10 on 26 February 2015
Dr.Vita said:
Skullwaker said:
I think a few things could lead to Wii U being more successful.
1.) Dragon Quest XI being shared between 3DS/Wii U like DQX (assuming this is a more traditional game).
2.) Pokken Tournament being a huge success.
3.) Youkai Watch for Wii U
4.) Another Monster Hunter
5.) Xenoblade being a huge success in Japan

I think it's more safe to assume PS4 will win though.


1.) I doubt this after Dragon Quest Heroes. Square Enix should know now where this series belong to
2.) Could be true but it won't be such a huge success how you think
3.) Not going to happen since we know Level 5 is working on a PS4 project
4.) Monster Hunter belongs to handhelds Monster Hunter Tri showed us that
5.) Will definitely boost sales but it is not Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest so it won't save the Wii U in Japan 


1) Yes, it belongs on nintendo systems especially after the last few releases did so well on NINTENDO systems.



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Materia-Blade on 26 February 2015
Hiku said:
Materia-Blade said:

Whatever game the ps4 runs, the wii u can run.

Changing and removing things to make them work on WiiU can potentially turn the game into quite a different experience though. When WiiU was still getting some crossgen ports of games, they were ported from the X360 version. Not the PS4 or XBO version. Because WiiU is closest in architecture to Xbox 360.
WiiU only has 1 GB of DDR3 RAM dedicated to games, while PS4 has 5GB of DDR5 RAM for games. The difference in performance on that front alone is nearly tenfold. Not to mention the rest. This is one of the reasons why developers don't want to bother porting their games to Wii U any more. Because the amount of time and money that goes into converting it for the Wii U from PS4/XBO just isn't worth it. And this goes hand in hand with fewer titles being crossgen these days, and more devs focusing on the current gen only.

Nothing will turn into even a slightly different experience. Things wouldn't be changed or removed, mereley scaled (resolution, for the most part). And that's IF square want to push things, something they haven't done for a while in DQ.

Your shallow RAM comparison show little understanding of how things works. Wii U's RAM memory works as a whole with the edram.

"This is one of the reasons why developers don't want to bother porting their games to Wii U any more. Because the amount of time and money that goes into converting it for the Wii U from PS4/XBO just isn't worth it." I think everyone knows that's not true.



outlawauron on 27 February 2015
Skullwaker said:
Aerys said:
I cant believe some people still doubt DQXI will be a PS4 exclusive, for us at least, dragon quest heroes shows their will to export DQ and the best way to do that is on PS4, its coming to PS4 , likely only PS4, you need to accept it guys

Its like the people who think PS4 wont outsell WiiU, just like those who thought that about X1

Why would the most popular franchise in Japan not launch on the highest selling platform in Japan? Answer me this. 

O_o

You really believe that PS4 won' t have passed Wii U the time a DQ11 releases?

sc94597 said:
Aerys said:
I cant believe some people still doubt DQXI will be a PS4 exclusive, for us at least, dragon quest heroes shows their will to export DQ and the best way to do that is on PS4, its coming to PS4 , likely only PS4, you need to accept it guys

Its like the people who think PS4 wont outsell WiiU, just like those who thought that about X1

I can't believe some people still doubt DQXI will be a 3DS/Wii U multiplatform game, for U.S at least, Dragon Quest X (and IX) shows their willingness to release a numbered DQ on Nintendo platforms, best way to do that is to release the game on both Wii U and 3DS, it's coming to the WIi U/3DS, likely both of them, you need to accept it Aerys. 

Its like the people who think Vita or PS4 will get a main series Monster Hunter game, just like those who thought DQX would release for PS3 as an exclusive. 

Holy cow! Hard to believe this level of arrogance despite the sales situation in Japan. 3DS and Vita will likely be dead or dying by the time DQ11 would release (2017 maybe?), so it's irrelevant. If the newest entry is indeed a console game, there's no chance it'll be a Wii U exclusive without some assistance.



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sc94597 on 27 February 2015
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:

I can't believe some people still doubt DQXI will be a 3DS/Wii U multiplatform game, for U.S at least, Dragon Quest X (and IX) shows their willingness to release a numbered DQ on Nintendo platforms, best way to do that is to release the game on both Wii U and 3DS, it's coming to the WIi U/3DS, likely both of them, you need to accept it Aerys. 

Its like the people who think Vita or PS4 will get a main series Monster Hunter game, just like those who thought DQX would release for PS3 as an exclusive. 

Holy cow! Hard to believe this level of arrogance despite the sales situation in Japan. 3DS and Vita will likely be dead or dying by the time DQ11 would release (2017 maybe?), so it's irrelevant. If the newest entry is indeed a console game, there's no chance it'll be a Wii U exclusive without some assistance.

I actually was just spoofing the post I quoted to show how ridiculous it was being, by posting the other ridiculous extreme. I think DQXI will be a Nintendo "fusion" game  with a PS4 port, or a PS3/PS4 multiplat - depending on release, but I'm not certain of it as Aerys is. Hence why in my original post in this thread, I considered the possibility of the PS4 getting DQXI as an exclusive and how it would influence sales. As for WIi U, Nintendo has assisted SE with Dragon Quest games in the past, if the PS4 doesn't pull a large install base advantage in Japan by then, that might be enough for SE. To me, DQ:Heroes seems more like a test of whether or not DQXI would be viable on the PS4, and whether a demanded game can change hardware sales of the PS4 drastically. 



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ZarskiSold on 27 February 2015
Miyamotoo said:
ZarskiSold said:
PS4 should match PS3 sales, the games are coming and in all likelihood as is DQ and Monster Hunter. PS4 will sale more then double.

No chance that PS4 will match PS3 sales in Japan, after 1st year have only 1.143k.

PS4 will sell more than Wii U, it will have longer life.


Yahh it will. PS4 will drop price faster and actually achive a sub 200 equevelent price fast.  Also will achive a $99 price.  



b00moscone on 27 February 2015
Lawlight said:
b00moscone said:


The Wii and Wii U are totally different systems. The Wii was mostly bought for casuals who just wanted a bowling simulator and maybe Mario Kart Wii, of course the PS3 sold more software. On the other hand, the Wii U has a more dedicated fanbase with, what i have already said, a much more consistent attach rate. But i was getting ahead of myself saying it will definitely sell more sofware. I think it will be the PS4's more games vs the Wii U's attach rate.

Just because the WiiU might have a higher attach rate than the Wii in the future, that does not mean that it will have a higher attach rate than the PS4 or that the number of games bought by WiiU owners will exceed the number of games bought by PS4 owners.


Its already evident that the attach rate is higher on the Wii U, like with Mario Kart 8 for example. But it is true that ps4 owners will buy more games for that systems than Wii U owners for that system, but we can only watch.



 

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Skullwaker on 27 February 2015
outlawauron said:
Skullwaker said:

I can't believe some people still doubt DQXI will be a 3DS/Wii U multiplatform game, for U.S at least, Dragon Quest X (and IX) shows their willingness to release a numbered DQ on Nintendo platforms, best way to do that is to release the game on both Wii U and 3DS, it's coming to the WIi U/3DS, likely both of them, you need to accept it Aerys. 

Its like the people who think Vita or PS4 will get a main series Monster Hunter game, just like those who thought DQX would release for PS3 as an exclusive. 

Holy cow! Hard to believe this level of arrogance despite the sales situation in Japan. 3DS and Vita will likely be dead or dying by the time DQ11 would release (2017 maybe?), so it's irrelevant. If the newest entry is indeed a console game, there's no chance it'll be a Wii U exclusive without some assistance.

Wouldn't let me quote your response towards me, but yeah. I was referring to the 3DS, not the Wii U. And if the 3DS is truly gone by the time DQXI releases, then I think it'll launch on Nintendo's new handheld (or the fusion hardware).



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Materia-Blade on 27 February 2015
outlawauron said:
Skullwaker said:

I can't believe some people still doubt DQXI will be a 3DS/Wii U multiplatform game, for U.S at least, Dragon Quest X (and IX) shows their willingness to release a numbered DQ on Nintendo platforms, best way to do that is to release the game on both Wii U and 3DS, it's coming to the WIi U/3DS, likely both of them, you need to accept it Aerys. 

Its like the people who think Vita or PS4 will get a main series Monster Hunter game, just like those who thought DQX would release for PS3 as an exclusive. 

Holy cow! Hard to believe this level of arrogance despite the sales situation in Japan. 3DS and Vita will likely be dead or dying by the time DQ11 would release (2017 maybe?), so it's irrelevant. If the newest entry is indeed a console game, there's no chance it'll be a Wii U exclusive without some assistance.

He was being sarcastic but 3ds will ever remain the 8th gen platform with most potential for DQ sales. Almost 20m japanese sales and counting. Plus, DQ 9 sold 4m+ on the ds, that's twice the wii u installed base and quadruple of ps4's. That means A DQ for 3ds has the installed base for the sales potential of a multiplat DQ between Wii U and ps4.



outlawauron on 27 February 2015
Materia-Blade said:
outlawauron said:

Holy cow! Hard to believe this level of arrogance despite the sales situation in Japan. 3DS and Vita will likely be dead or dying by the time DQ11 would release (2017 maybe?), so it's irrelevant. If the newest entry is indeed a console game, there's no chance it'll be a Wii U exclusive without some assistance.

He was being sarcastic but 3ds will ever remain the 8th gen platform with most potential for DQ sales. Almost 20m japanese sales and counting. Plus, DQ 9 sold 4m+ on the ds, that's twice the wii u installed base and quadruple of ps4's. That means A DQ for 3ds has the installed base for the sales potential of a multiplat DQ between Wii U and ps4.

Fanbase is far more important than install base. If Dragon Quest Heroes, Final Fantasy XV, and Kingdom Hearts 3 all do well, Square has good reason to believe their JRPG fanbase has a PS4. That's just the Square titles as there's going to be other series that appear that grow that specific userbase.

I don't think using numbers now is a very fair comparison, because it's unlikely to have that great of an impact unless Nintendo/Sony are unable to convince Square that their respective platforms will suceed and continue to grow.



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