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As a gamer, should I care about gamergate?

Yes 34 24.11%
 
No 83 58.87%
 
Kinda 24 17.02%
 
Total:141
Alby_da_Wolf said:

Well said. But I must admit that if she could keep her (not so) funny faces to a reasonable minimum for a while, I could fuck Zoe Quinn anyway without regrets. 
Edit: If she really couldn't, I could solve the problem changing position.   



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badgenome said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

Well said. But I must admit that if she could keep her (not so) funny faces to a reasonable minimum for a while, I could fuck Zoe Quinn anyway without regrets. 
Edit: If she really couldn't, I could solve the problem changing position.   




LOL, but I saw far better photos of her.   



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The only way to get the whole ordeal to die out is to stop talking about it...



This thing is still going on? Both sides are full of so much shit that it obscured the legitimate problem at the heart of the scandal beyond all recognition like the ludicrous "occupy" movement.



Long story short: The catalyst for Gamergate was when a woman named Zoey Quinn who is a game developer, cheated on her boyfriend with an employee of Kotaku. Her Ex feeling betrayed sold her out to the world. She was received some of the biggest internet backlash that the media got involved. The accusation was that she was having sex with reviewers for good review scores on her game. This was debunked by Kotaku who stated that they were never reviewing her game to begin with. The roof blew off of the situation because a feminist named Anita Sarkeesian spoke out about it and the gamers went on a rampage after her.

The legs of Gamergate were knocked out from under the cause the second the whole thing blew up over sexism in gaming. Gaming is very sexist. I'm not saying everyone is , but this is the reason why no one outside of gaming gives a damn about Gamergate. If they want a movement against bad journalism they need to reestablish the process and step as far away from Gamergate as possible.



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Cleary397 said:
RCTjunkie said:
There are more important issues to care about in the world right now.


*facepalm*

 

the fallacy of relative privation... such a poor argument.


I wasn't trying to argue anything. He asked if he should care and I was saying relative to other world problems that this isn't as 8mportant based on the subject matter, the scope, and the consequences, which are all either trivial or non existent. 



RCTjunkie said:
Cleary397 said:


*facepalm*

 

the fallacy of relative privation... such a poor argument.


I wasn't trying to argue anything. He asked if he should care and I was saying relative to other world problems that this isn't as 8mportant based on the subject matter, the scope, and the consequences, which are all either trivial or non existent. 

Which is exactly what the fallacy of relative privation is.

Saying we shouldnt care/bother about something because there are worse things going on.

If this aproach was taken to reality nothing would ever be cared about.



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Cleary397 said:
RCTjunkie said:


I wasn't trying to argue anything. He asked if he should care and I was saying relative to other world problems that this isn't as 8mportant based on the subject matter, the scope, and the consequences, which are all either trivial or non existent. 

Which is exactly what the fallacy of relative privation is.

Saying we shouldnt care/bother about something because there are worse things going on.

If this aproach was taken to reality nothing would ever be cared about.

I'm not going to debate your nit-pick for a simple statement I made, whether I was right or wrong. I still advise not caring about Gamergate because it's unimportant.



badgenome said:

It's long and complicated because of a lot of pointless internet drama, but the basics go something like this:

A woman named Zoe Quinn develops a game called Depression Quest and got a lot of buzz on various game sites such as Kotaku. Her ex-boyfriend then writes a Tumblr claiming that she cheated on him with five guys from the industry (one of whom worked for Kotaku) and tried to gaslight him about it, which would kind of contradict her claims that she cared deeply about mental illness since he has a history of issues.

This leads to a lot of people calling Quinn a whore and making unsubstantiated claims that she slept around expressly for the purpose of getting coverage for her game. This in turn, along with the negative reception to Anita Sarkeesian's Tropes vs. Women, causes several game bloggers to write posts about how gaming isn't just for straight white males anymore and to make the hyperbolic claim that, "Gamers are dead." At this point the whole thing erupts, with one side forming up to protest misogyny in gaming while the other side protests nepotism and corruption in game "journalism", meaning that both sides just talk past and harass each other and never shut the fuck up about it.

No, it's best not to care.

I just want to say this is a really excellent summary.  And I agree with your conclusion that it's best not to care.  Getting caught up in the drama does nothing but perpetuate it.



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badgenome said:

It's long and complicated because of a lot of pointless internet drama, but the basics go something like this:

A woman named Zoe Quinn develops a game called Depression Quest and got a lot of buzz on various game sites such as Kotaku. Her ex-boyfriend then writes a Tumblr claiming that she cheated on him with five guys from the industry (one of whom worked for Kotaku) and tried to gaslight him about it, which would kind of contradict her claims that she cared deeply about mental illness since he has a history of issues.

This leads to a lot of people calling Quinn a whore and making unsubstantiated claims that she slept around expressly for the purpose of getting coverage for her game. This in turn, along with the negative reception to Anita Sarkeesian's Tropes vs. Women, causes several game bloggers to write posts about how gaming isn't just for straight white males anymore and to make the hyperbolic claim that, "Gamers are dead." At this point the whole thing erupts, with one side forming up to protest misogyny in gaming while the other side protests nepotism and corruption in game "journalism", meaning that both sides just talk past and harass each other and never shut the fuck up about it.

No, it's best not to care.

Thank you for the summary. I've been wondering what it is for the past few weeks and because you are the best person ever, (except RolStoppable and any mods that have banned me) I can now be informed.

 

Gee that was really uncharacteristic of me.

Sounds like both parties involved are little bitches.