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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 22nd of November 2014

mornelithe said:
iTechHeads said:
FATALITY said:

lol

this comment is so clueless

Huh? You denying the facts?

PS4 no longer has a 2:1 sales ratio with the XB1 worldwide.

Well, not to take any sides here, but you're also going by VGChartz numbers, which are knowingly undertracked, even admittedly by the sites owner, due to his inability to apply Sony's officially announced sales, correctly.

That is kind of besides the point even if it is undertraced say 250k or so like most think it still is no longer 2:1. The ratio changed but the gap also increased between the two. The response FATALITY gave could have been better but it seemed to be little instead of explain teh situation like most of his comments usually do.



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I just saw the GTA V ad. If that's the same ad that's playing all over Globally and Globally in the USA, those that only get their news from TV are going to buy it for PS4. That marketing deal and these numbers (if right) prove that GTA is and shall forever be, A BEAST!



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burning_phoneix said:
Ninsect said:

-From another thread. Never doubt GTA again, people.


Smash sold over 500k if you count digital.

 

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I really think that those PS4 numbers are overtracked. 700k+ on the week BEFORE BF? This is the greatest case of premature ejucaulation I've ever seen in my life.

 

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If you're going to count smash digital you need to count digital for ps4 games like GTA 5. I bought it on the US PSN strore and close to 100k buyers in the US alone have given the game a thumbs up. (only buyers can do this rating). That to be suggest at least 300k bought the game from the US digital. 

On the EU store I can't see the thumb up ratings as i haven't bought it there but the star ratings are not too far behind the US. Add in the ROW and GTA 5 has sold gangbusters digital for PS4. 



BreedinBull said:
I just saw the GTA V ad. If that's the same ad that's playing all over Globally and Globally in the USA, those that only get their news from TV are going to buy it for PS4. That marketing deal and these numbers (if right) prove that GTA is and shall forever be, A BEAST!

I have a feeling that Sony is banking it all on Black Friday to win November. It's not a bad strategy since the vast majority of sales for November come from BF (and Cyber Monday, too).



drdante said:
Nate4Drake said:
Many just talk about NA like it was the only thing which really matters...
look at the insane figures for PS4 in Europe alone! OMG !!! roughly 350k !

because it is globally.....in US

ahahahah, you are right :)



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Nate4Drake said:
Aura7541 said:
Nate4Drake said:
Many just talk about NA like it was the only thing which really matters...
look at the insane figures for PS4 in Europe alone! OMG !!! roughly 350k !

Not only that, it outsold the X1 in Europe by nearly 3 to 1 which is insane.

Europe is a huge and very important Market, can't believe MS are happy to compete only in NA...

By the way, I'm expecting 900k/1M PS4 sold by the week ending Nov 29th, the BF week.

Microsoft wants to make an overall profit from the X1. For MS to spend tons of money to raise the baseline in Europe might not be worth it.

However, at the same time, not focusing on Europe limits the demographic scope. You want to sell your console to fans of genres other than shooters and sports. However, if much of the userbase prefers only a select few genres, then it will consequently limit the overall game library.



burning_phoneix said:
Ninsect said:
burning_phoneix said:
Ninsect said:

-From another thread. Never doubt GTA again, people.


Smash sold over 500k if you count digital.

 

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I really think that those PS4 numbers are overtracked. 700k+ on the week BEFORE BF? This is the greatest case of premature ejucaulation I've ever seen in my life.

 

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Eh? Smash sold 490k in the first THREE days INCLUDING digital (straight from Nintendo). First week is only two days so that doesn't make much sense.

Also, did GTAV conveniently not get a digital release lol?

As for the second part, I repeat: Have you ever heard of GTA?


Sorry bout the error.

 

But it still stands. I was quoting the quote before the quote tree was shortened by the mods, that Xbone GTA outsold Smash on launch. Considering Smash was released on the 21st only in the US and GTA on the 18th Worldwide, I would think that Smash did quite impressive numbers.

 

As for the second part: GTAV is a remaster, not a new GTA title and it sold accordingly quite well but of course not as good as GTAV on launch. It cannot account for a 700k+ week.


Lad GTA 5 X1 is standing up to SSB. BTW GTA 5 is undertracked on here by a lot and SSB likely a bit too. 



Troll_Whisperer said:
chocoloco said:

Very pleased by the US numbers given so far. The X1 barely sold more than the PS4. If the price cut does not stick after the holidays I am pretty sure the PS4 will jump back to the US sales lead.

What are your expectations for Black Friday and for the whole of November? 

Well, I think it has been shown that Halo MCC did not sell X1 consoles as much as a lot of people hoped and it pushed consoles worse than  even I thought they would. I think the X1 will  pull out a small win for November because the price cut did a great deal to sell consoles in early November. Black Friday I see pretty even sales for the X1 and PS4 because I think there is high demand for both. They will both sell almost all they ship.  I really do not see Black Friday as  being like years past where the 360 always slayed the PS3. The X1 is not  the in/cool console to own like the 360 always was. There is no in/cool console to own in the US yet, so I think the black Friday sales will show pretty even numbers for the PS4 and X1.



Mummelmann said:
Crazy high PS4 numbers, BF could very well provide one million at this rate if Europe remains high, Japanese numbers looking increasingly ridiculous in comparison.
One doing a great job, should have a really good BF and December as well.
Even Wii U got a nice lift here, Smash doing its job as ordered.


is there any reason why EU PS4 numbers could drop next week?



Nate4Drake said:
Many just talk about NA like it was the only thing which really matters...
look at the insane figures for PS4 in Europe alone! OMG !!! roughly 350k !

I talk about the US the most because I am an American so the sales here affect me more than sales in other places. There are more Americans on this site than any other nationality by far. So we like to talk about our country.