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KLXVER said:
GotBoth said:
KLXVER said:
The WiiU will beat them both in sales in Bulgaria on December 12th between 6pm and 6.22pm...


Why does everyone on here insist on being funny men/women? I rarely comment on here because I like to read and analyze, I don't need the enjoyment of making someone I don't see laugh or being right about sales with people I don't even know.  But some folks seem as though this is their entire social life.


.......you must be a hoot at parties...

LOL yeah. My reply was going to be this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skawrfm0AIM

 

Anyways, bad sports analogy is bad. For starters I am pretty sure a team will celebrate any win. The Jaguars celebrated when they got their first win. The Patriots celebrated when they squeaked by the winless Raiders. And those same Raiders, if they had the talent to ever win another game, would celebrate when it happened.

Secondly we aren't players playing on a team. People just want to see their investments work out well. Also, a lot of it is done just to stir the pot here. Last gen when the PS3 won a rare NPD, their fans were happy about it.

What a shitty outlook to have on life. Sounds like you had a hard ass for a coach. Sorry about that.



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I see what you're saying. It's one thing to take what you've got and be happy with it, and to talk about it for the sake of discussion, but it's another to constantly pretend like you're winning or pretend like you're about to start winning without any real proof.

Sony fans are confident in the fact that they're currently winning, and Nintendo fans are rooting for their system and trying to stay positive with what they've got, but Microsoft fans are stuck right in the middle, and they're only happy when they're putting on a big show and acting like things are going to turn around any moment now. I don't think there's anything wrong with staying positive and discussing how things might change, but bragging about things like the Amazon Best Sellers list and how much stock is on store shelves and claiming they're proof of the changing tide is just sad.

(For the record, I do believe the fate of any of the three systems can turn around drastically, and that their places are not set in stone as people seem to think they are. But you can't deny the current state of things at least.)



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Well what can Xbox fan do, they had done many things from defending their console, supporting the company, buying the games , and be positive with many negative comment.

For all I care Video games is not very competitive because it's not real life sport where you put your body and mental until you worn out, you just playing on sofa and eat Doritos. i guess that's not what i call competitive in the end gamers is gamers and fanboy is just a fanboy who care for their own justification with their own console.

so calling Xbox fan not competitive is funny because they just a normal gamer who coincidentally like sports games and competitive "games".



The more successful Xbox is, the more likely we are to see exciting new projects created for the system.

It doesnt matter if you are 1st place or 2nd place, what matters is the support your system receives. If the Xbox One can go toe-to-toe with the PS4 then developers/ publishers/ whoever will see it and will be easily persuaded to make games for the system.



                            

DerpSandwich said:
I see what you're saying. It's one thing to take what you've got and be happy with it, and to talk about it for the sake of discussion, but it's another to constantly pretend like you're winning or pretend like you're about to start winning without any real proof.

Sony fans are confident in the fact that they're currently winning, and Nintendo fans are rooting for their system and trying to stay positive with what they've got, but Microsoft fans are stuck right in the middle, and they're only happy when they're putting on a big show and acting like things are going to turn around any moment now. I don't think there's anything wrong with staying positive and discussing how things might change, but bragging about things like the Amazon Best Sellers list and how much stock is on store shelves and claiming they're proof of the changing tide is just sad.

(For the record, I do believe the fate of any of the three systems can turn around drastically, and that their places are not set in stone as people seem to think they are. But you can't deny the current state of things at least.)

I think more people are mad about Xbox One sales in late Oct and early November, than Xbox fans happy about it.

There have been hundreds of posts explaining why people are happy about the X1 sales. But like a bull, detractors only see red and disregard any logic/explanation in order to poop on the party.

It's not just on Amazon that Xbox 1 is selling well recently. Xbox One consoles dominates BestBuy bestselling list.

The top 15 on that list got 3 Xbox One skus over PS4 for about 3 weeks now. It used to be 4 with Sunset bundle.



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This thread is the perfect exampe, why "sports player" should not talk about business competition. the're not compareable.

But if u really want to, this is the standing right now:
Sony is winning
MS is going for a draw
Nintendo is losing



I think Xbox winning a month or 2 is good for everyone.
For Xbox they can show their shareholders that they can be competitive and temporarily silence the shareholders that want to sell it.

For Sony it keeps them on their toes. Without the success of the 360 Sony wouldn't have made the ps4 40% more powerful and have a consumer 1st mentality.

Its a win win



Burek said:
GotBoth said:

I know these forums are really strict so I will make this as unmoderating worthy as possible but I have a question?

What's up with Xbox Fans Loser Mentality?

I played competitive sports at a high level (region 5A Georgia) and moterately high level (D-2 in college).  If we were losing ALL YEAR and beat a Sorry Team Once or Twice, we WERE NOT HAPPY AND CLAPPING HANDS AND BRAGGING after those games.

So why are XBO fans so happy about the potential to win Nov and Dec, and then get markedly outsold again next year until November, December?  And not only that, I doubt it will win worldwide ANY WEEK? So winning US is now like winning a championship (being overall sells leader)?

My coach called that a loser mentality.  I agreed and still believe that today. By the way since Destiny won't be interesting again until Dec. 9th and Driveclub has issues I play my XBO MUCH MORE than my PS4 at the moment so don't dare call me a fan boy.  During the recent by 2 get 1 deal at target I got 6 xbox games. My gamer tag is PoonieG4 for those interested.  This is my first Xbox and i love it.

But November amd December are the most important months, usually selling as much as the rest of the year combined.

Using your sports analogy, it's like being an average NBA team, winning some and getting slaughtered most of the time, finishing with a 36-46 record and barely squeaking into the 8th playoff position, then showing up in the playoffs and ending up the champs. While the team that dominated 66-16 gets knocked out in the first round....

It's not about celebrating an occasional victory, it's about winning when it matters...

 

Off-topic: Which Div.2 school? I used to play at Jacksonville State back in the day when they were ) D-II, they are now I-AA (FCS in football).

It's more like they had some great players who set a couple records and made the all-star team, and their side won the all-star game, and the division championships.

That would better symbolize winning in the US but not globally, for a small portion of the year.



GotBoth said:
CDiablo said:
There are like 3 XBox fans on this site. Let them have their "victory". Those 3 fans are relentlessly getting shit upon by PS fans on this site non-stop. Anytime any positive XBox news gets posted on this site or many others Sony fans flock to shit on it. This "victory" will be shit upon as well. In much larger numbers. Now ask your self who are the real losers.

The real loser mentality is being a fanboy of a company thats only goal is to separate you from your money.


So Sony and Microsoft fans both have the loser mentality? I think life in general is competitive, being a fan does not make you a loser. Being happy as a loser makes you a loser. Its healthy and even enjoyable to have MS vs. Sony, Apple vs. Samsung, Lakers vs. Celtics.  You can be suggesting being a rabbit fan is bad??? Its a part of life but when you are losing you accept it, when you are winning you celebrate it.

Fanboys, yes. There is a difference between a (or mostly a) Sony gamer and a Sony fanboy. You really cant make a comparison between corporations battling for your dollar and athletes battling for pride. There is a reason many(any?) people arent fanboys of clothing companies, tool manufacturers, chain resturants and so on. It is because it is stupid loser behavior. Most fanboys are losers no matter what their console alligiance is. Gamers should be gamers and should play on as many platforms as possible.

You say " Being happy as a loser makes you a loser." Doesnt that contradict what you were trying to say in your OP. XBots are happy cause they are winning(speculation atm) in (North American)sales this month. Their console is striving while they assume that the competitor/opponent is not making the same strides.



Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.

Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.

-Jim Sterling

GotBoth said:
Jazz2K said:
Are you serious? MS may be "losing" sales wise to Sony but we as gamers we win because of all the effort they put in their games. Frankly I like what Xbox is offering more than what others have to offer game wise. I think it's more the bad winner mentality that should be questionned (from all sides that is)

I've been doing sports all my life and if you couldn't cheer up after a victory, no wonder you lost all year long.


You can't be serious.  My teams didn't lose all year long, and youve been doing competive sports and you were celebrating hard after one win during a losing streak? yeah right. But this thread isn't about liking one more, its about sales and sales only and why Xbox ONLY fans are so happy about potentially winning US.

I guess the question would be if people who own an Xbox really care so much about winning a sales war or just being happy that the X1 is selling good.  In the long run, what exactly do a consumer win if the X1 is selling the most consoles.  Is it bragging rights where you can tell someone that a Corporation sold more of a product designed to take your money over another.  I really do not see the point where it really matter who is the leader in console sales compared to what each console provide for its userbase.

Also from your OP you are making assumptions that people who might enjoy that the X1 can take Nov and Dec which are huge months in sales for consoles believe that the PS4 will continue to enjoy a sales lead come January.  Nothing is set in stone and MS might continue with the 50 dollar difference if its successful.

On the last point, why would anyone from the US care if the X1 doesn't sell great in Japan.  Yes, the X1 probably will not win globally but then again that’s an issue for MS to solve.  Winning in the 2 biggest markets is probably something MS is striving for the most then concentrate on the other territories. 

As a X1 owner, I like it when MS is on the bottom fighting then when they are on the Top.  As a PS4 owner, I would prefer if Sony was fighting on the bottom instead of being on top but Sony has earned the right to be on top so I am comfortable with them there for now.  As a consumer I need MS to stay competitive and Sony not to get to far ahead because it benefits me the most because each will do what it takes to increase their install base and make their customers happy.  If MS falls behind to much they probably quite, if Sony gets to far ahead they go back to old Sony which is not something I want at all.