You don't even know what about what you said that I was referring to you being wrong about. 

And this is not about having nothing else to say. Just don't have anything to say to you. If you take that as me conceding defeat then by all means enjoy. Just don't see the point repeating myself in a thousand different ways. Especially to someone that is obviously bent on not listenning.

But yh, if you believe I know nothing about what I am talking about (like that even has anything to do with what I was talking about) then its ok. There is a right and wrong way to have debates or discussions... the wy you are going about it isn't it. Which is why I am not discussing this topic with you anymore but responding to others. Everything I have to say on this matter I have said in this thread already. I am sorry if you don't understand what point I was trying to make.

It's amazing how many people completely misread this argument. It's as if anytime anyone says something in the Consoles vs PC area, it has to be a challenge.

Sorry, what exactly is this link supposed to show? 

• First off, The R series of GPUs are in the sea islands range of GPUs. 
• Secondly, like the southern islands range which is what the PS4/XB1 is based off, they are also built on the GCN architecture. Each compute unit has 64 unified shader cores. 
• The closest GPU in that range to the PS4s GPU is the R9 270. Which has 20 CUs just like a PS4 has 20CUs (though two are deactivated to improve yeild).
• I also notice that in the link you sent you didn't out ina OS. Put in an OS and an R9 270 GPU in theer and tell me how much that RIg costs.

Believe me... I am still in complete absolute shock how misinterpreted this thread has been by some. Especially considerring how clearly I amde he point of this whole discussion in my OP. And some of them are still hard at trying to prove a point that I was never even trying to make to begin with lol. 

PC's are more expensive.

The 3000 Dollar argument is bogus unless you're trying to do a multi monitor setup, must do supersampling and 16X MSAA, or just like to waste money.

Since the 1 year before the PC has been released I've spent about 2000 dollars on PC stuff and upgrades. Selling old components for about 400 dollars total. Running at settings and frame rates much higher than consoles (Not quite maxed in games that are console ports).

The monitor and sound is not included, but I use the same monitor and sound system for my PC and consoles.

Since basically the xbox has been released I've spent
900 Dollars on Xbox360 (2 Break).
500 Dollars PS3
300 Bucks Wii-U

So yes, basically I've spent 2x as much on PC as on Xbox, 4x as much as PS3 during that same time. 

But during that time, I've gotten much better image quality, resolution options IE 2560x1440 has been available forever, 3 monitor support, framerate, and customizability... And a lot of times, users can fix major issues in games, or make said games better. Not all games are available on any platform unfortunately.

Consoles are easier to setup!

I definitely agree with what you're saying. But it makes sense that consoles are generally preferred over PC, for the reasons you described.

Consoles are aimed at the average consumer. But most "enthusiast" gamers prefer PC, mainly because it gives you much more freedom and more options (The better graphics is only one of many reasons people like PC over console). It's easy to justify the extra upfront cost for these reasons.

The "average consumer" market will always be larger than the enthusiast one. And that's why consoles and console games are always more prolific.

What do you expect in a thread called "consoles VERSUS PC", followed by many comparisons between PCs and consoles?

A thread called "Consoles and PCs, both have their advantages and disadvantages" or "Consoles and PCs, together in harmony" or something like that wouldn't aggregate so many people (of both sides). ;)

Nope its not bogus. Why? Cause we could be here talking about how good BF4 looks on the PS4 in 900p compared to it being 720p on the XB1. And some PC gamer will take  that as a cue to find that benchmark from TomsHardware that ran the game at 4K at 64fps on ultra settings with a R9 295x2 GPU (thats a $1000+ GPU by the way) or on an Nvidia titan z ($3000 GPU) and start throwing those screen shots around in the thread like that is the floor of PC performance when in truth its a very nrealistic ceiling that very very very few PC gamers can afford. We all know that with more money to spend you can get better performance from a PC setup. But how does that make sense when comparing that to what basically a sub $200 GPU is doing. 

The whole point of this thread, is to make a simple suggestion. If people want to compare how a game runs on the PC to how it runs on a console, then they should make that comaprison using hardware on the PC that is similar to the hardware you will find in the console its being compared to. There is zero sense in comparing hardware that is marginally or extremely more expensive than what you have in  a console to the console. In the same way that you will not compare a $1000GPU to a $150 GPU when they are both hooked up in a PC set up. 

Somehow, this point has gone right over the heads of some people. And it seems so obvious its actually strange.

I could even make the ame point and remove consoles from the equation and it would still apply. If you are gonna try and find the best sub $200 GPU on the market, does it make sense to add a $1000-$3000 GPU in the testing?

I actually lol'd at some of the name suggestions.

In truth though, this thread is specifically based on consoles vs PC. But not in the way some people went on to take it. The points I made were not in anyway intended or even directed at making one platform seem better or worse than the other. They were made to back my original reasoning on how games running on PCs should be compared to the same game running on consoles and how they shouldn't.

Its just weird how many times I had to explain that what where soe people were taking the thread to was not something I was even suggesting. I have not changed the OP. And have re-read te OP at least 4 times trying to see if theer was something I said there that could have lead people to think this was a platform battle lol.

The best part comes when you spend only a little more on a PC for example 500 and you get a machine capable to play games at 1080/60 and you get back those 100 more very fast because of how cheap games are on PC.

Also remember to pay psplus or gold if you want to play online games on console.