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Is the Xbox One selling well?

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Turkish on 23 October 2014

PS3 was considered a flop at that time, go back to 2007 threads or articles from sites like kotaku. The PS3 at 599 is selling better than Xbone yet Xbone isn't doing badly.
It's quite frankly hilarious.



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Mr Puggsly on 23 October 2014
Aerys said:

Unless they dont sell 30M in the US, with PS4 taking more and more market share there.

Well I don't think Sony is taking as much as they gave last gen.

Frankly, potential sales depends on how competitive MS is willing to get. Price matching Sony isn't going to do much to close a sales gap.



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freedquaker on 23 October 2014

I am quoting myself on the same IGN article thread

freedquaker said:

XB1 has been selling WELL UNDER X360 after its debut. This article is one of the worst piece of wishful thinking text I have ever seen recently, completely devoid of genuine market analyses.

XB1, however, is released on an 80 million hungry user base (way over 25 million) and after 7 years (instead of 3). At the release of X360, the vast majority of people were still waiting for PS3. Only after the harcore initial buyers got their hands on X360 and people realised that they got a pretty even experience at a much lower price point, they started to jump off ship, especially with the advent of network effects.

Let me give you a bunch of statistics to depict you the vehemence of the situation:

XB1 vs PS4 sold in 2014 only (by 4 Oct 2014)

World:  2,913,121 vs 7,440,352 (28.1% vs 71.9%)
US : 1,665,728 vs 2,578,508 (39.2% vs 60.8%)
Europe : 701,833 vs 2,763,559 (20.3% vs 79.7%)

For comparison, despite all its disadvantages, X360 had still managed to sell more

X360 sold globally...

by the end of 2005 : 1,178,904
by 7 October 2006 : 4,839,500
X360: 3,660,596 vs XB1 : 2,913,121

Yes, PS4 is making XB1 look worse, but it ACTUALLY is worse! And its marketshare is decreasing even further.

Market shares for XB1 (between XB1 and PS4 only) in 2014

Global : dropped from 40.0% to 33.5%
US : dropped from 47.2% to 43.5%
Europe: dropped from 30.5% to 24.9%





Playstation 5 vs XBox Series Market Share Estimates

Regional Analysis  (only MS and Sony Consoles)
Europe     => XB1 : 23-24 % vs PS4 : 76-77%
N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

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Aerys on 23 October 2014

They wont, but they'll take back a lot, probably somathing like 25M X1 and 30-35M PS4



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

freedquaker on 23 October 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
Assuming this is another longer generation, they can probably sell 40 - 50 million units.

In my opinion, that would doing well.


For more info and technical analysis, please see:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178341&page=1

 

Summary for XB1 estimates:

 

    Size 0.83 0.83 0.83 0.83
    HD 0.8 0.8 0.9 0.9
    XB1 0.24 0.33 0.24 0.33
  X360   HD=0.80 XB1=24 HD=0.80 XB1=33 HD=0.90 XB1=24 HD=0.90 XB1=33
2005 4,579,033 2013 2,442,151 3,357,958 2,747,420 3,777,702
2006 11,903,353 2014 6,348,455 8,729,125 7,142,012 9,820,266
2007 21,053,150 2015 11,228,347 15,438,977 12,631,890 17,368,849
2008 31,340,662 2016 16,715,020 22,983,152 18,804,397 25,856,046
2009 42,952,305 2017 22,907,896 31,498,357 25,771,383 35,435,652
2010 56,636,062 2018 30,205,900 41,533,112 33,981,637 46,724,751
2011 69,318,279 2019 36,969,749 50,833,404 41,590,967 57,187,580
2012 77,443,575 2020 41,303,240 56,791,955 46,466,145 63,890,949


Playstation 5 vs XBox Series Market Share Estimates

Regional Analysis  (only MS and Sony Consoles)
Europe     => XB1 : 23-24 % vs PS4 : 76-77%
N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

Sales Estimations for 8th Generation Consoles

Next Gen Consoles Impressions and Estimates

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bigjon on 23 October 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
Assuming this is another longer generation, they can probably sell 40 - 50 million units.

In my opinion, that would doing well.


I think the XB1 will look more like the N64 in sales and the PS4 might look similiar to the PS1.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

sweetoothj on 23 October 2014

Xbox one needs to sell about 4 million from now to the end of this year to match or beat the 360 second year. I think there is a chance for that to happened. Halo MCC, COD, Bundles and advertisement. Also, people been wanting to play all the other exclusive games such as sunset overdrive,killer instinct and Forza.



Mr Puggsly on 23 October 2014
bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Assuming this is another longer generation, they can probably sell 40 - 50 million units.

In my opinion, that would doing well.


I think the XB1 will look more like the N64 in sales and the PS4 might look similiar to the PS1.


If MS doesn't make much of an effort, probably.



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bigjon on 23 October 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Assuming this is another longer generation, they can probably sell 40 - 50 million units.

In my opinion, that would doing well.


I think the XB1 will look more like the N64 in sales and the PS4 might look similiar to the PS1.


If MS doesn't make much of an effort, probably.

well gosh darnit this is a 1st for everything. We agreed on something. : ).



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

retroking1981 on 23 October 2014
KingdomHeartsFan said:

retroking1981 said:


XOne will have so much support from 3rd parties that it can't do worse than GC/OG XB imo. My guess is it'll settle between to the two previous Xboxes in terms of sales, probably be a neighbour of the NES in the all time top selling consoles chart.

I'm curious where you think all those extra sales are gonna come from?  

It lost a huge portion of its market share in NA, last gen it was around 65% I think and now its under 50%.

Its obviously gonna do a lot poorer in Europe, basically Sony land and I'm not sure about the UK but I'm assuming they lost a good portion of market share there.

Japan is irrelavent and I see rest of the world doing around 5m including China. 

I don't see it reaching 60m.

Edit: I see it reaching 45-50m.

I agree but to be fair I never gave a number, I  just that it'll be between 360 and OG XBox and probably neighbour the NES. To do that it has to sell between 49.10m which is currently SNES in 11th place and 80.82m which is PSP in 9th place. NES is snuggled in the middle at 61.91m.

But to break it down.

PS3 has sold 28m in NA and 360 47m. I think PS4 will beat the XOne to second place in NA this gen but not to the same extent so I think XOne should hit 30m minimum there.

Europe will be much much more one sided. 360 sold 25.34m there and OG XB 7.17m. XOne will be closer to the OG here, probably 10-15m.

Thats a 40-45m pessimistic minimum imo. That would fall short of taking over the SNES but there's one more factor which I think will help nudge it past...

The Wii has become the Wii U.

I know the whole casual argument but 100m owners can't be ignored. Even if only 20-30m of those Wii owners were 'gamers' they still need somewhere to go for their gaming. The Wii U isn't going to appease them so I think there's definitely an audience that are going to migrate to XOne/PS4. Then there's multi console ownership. No doubt a lot of the 100m Wii owners also had one of the others, this gen there's gonna be a lot more PS4-XOne combos out there.  I think this could be enough to give it an extra 5-10m, again a bit of a pessimistic estimate imo.

So my estimate is very similar to yours at 45-55m, but I honestly think thats a minimum.