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Sorry but no. There will always be conflict there as long as there is no strong leadership, the Turks brought peace to middle east for 700 years, jews, christians and muslims lived side by side. When Turks left, the place immediately got into wars. Be it religious or sectarian or tribal.

Turkey should govern the entire middle east, there will be no more problems.



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The Turkey that shooted how many times on its own people? We see how Turkey treated the Kurds and could not even care for its own population leading to millions emigrating to Europe/NA...



Turkish said:
Sorry but no. There will always be conflict there as long as there is no strong leadership, the Turks brought peace to middle east for 700 years, jews, christians and muslims lived side by side. When Turks left, the place immediately got into wars. Be it religious or sectarian or tribal.

Turkey should govern the entire middle east, there will be no more problems.


You can't be serious. 

What about the Kurds?



PullusPardus said:
o_O.Q said:

so information pertaining to where ISIS initially came from is pointless to mention? lol ok

 

anyway that's right what makes any person smart is a willingness to see where the gaps in their knowledge are and to fill in those gaps

but evidently with regards to certain topics most people do not have that desire, which is of course by design

 

anyway there's no point in me posting anything else i'll let you carry on with the 

arabs just hate each other and will continue killing each other and the us is just there to bring about peace thing

because it makes you feel good and that is what is important not the truth but how we feel

for all the bullshit religious people get thrown at them i don't think people realise just how prevelent the religious mindset is outside of religion


Stop putting words in people's mouths. Stop thinking you're intellectually supperior 


have you realised that so far that is your only retort?

you seem to be more concerned with being offended that i may have shown you something you did not know than actually being appreciative that you gained the chance to learn something new

and that is where ego and lack of humility pay a part in keeping people ignorant

 

for example, you posted videos describing conflicts in the middle east which started in 1980 to demonstrate how i was wrong about united states influence

i then proceeded to show you how these conflicts were in fact influenced by the united states when zbigniew brezinzski funded the mujahideen

 

instead of simply admitting that you were mistaken you just dismissed it all as something you knew before hand

so you knew and yet you still posted that false bullshit about the conflicts without pointing out that they were caused by united states influence

 

so no it has nothing to do with intellect its just that you are too arrogant to allow yourself to see how you are wrong

truly amusing but whatever buddy carry on



PullusPardus said:
Turkish said:
Sorry but no. There will always be conflict there as long as there is no strong leadership, the Turks brought peace to middle east for 700 years, jews, christians and muslims lived side by side. When Turks left, the place immediately got into wars. Be it religious or sectarian or tribal.

Turkey should govern the entire middle east, there will be no more problems.


You can't be serious. 

What about the Kurds?

The Kurds will get autonomy and everything they want, education in own language etc. Syria and Iraq will become parts of Turkey, the borders set up by the imperialist Europeans 100 years ago that is the source of all the problems will vanish. Without borders kurds will finally be unified.

A Westerner like you looks at the issue from the perspective of the West, you will never solve the problem. Iraq is after 10 years still a hot mess. The West destabilized the entire region after 6-700 years of Turkish peace in just decades.

We will bring Pax Turcica to the ME in the near future inshallah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Ottomana



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GamechaserBE said:
The Turkey that shooted how many times on its own people? We see how Turkey treated the Kurds and could not even care for its own population leading to millions emigrating to Europe/NA...


The emigration to Europe was at the request of Europe itself to rebuild the continent after the world war, they asked for strong Turkish workforce to do low paying dirty, dangerous jobs because the Euro's didn't want it anymore.

You are delusional if you think Turks still migrate to Europe, in fact, many Turks go back to Turkey thanks to the economy. The biggest migration to countries like Belgium comes from Eastern Europe like Romania and Bulgaria.



Turkish said:
PullusPardus said:
Turkish said:
Sorry but no. There will always be conflict there as long as there is no strong leadership, the Turks brought peace to middle east for 700 years, jews, christians and muslims lived side by side. When Turks left, the place immediately got into wars. Be it religious or sectarian or tribal.

Turkey should govern the entire middle east, there will be no more problems.


You can't be serious. 

What about the Kurds?

The Kurds will get autonomy and everything they want, education in own language etc. Syria and Iraq will become parts of Turkey, the borders set up by the imperialist Europeans 100 years ago that is the source of all the problems will vanish. Without borders kurds will finally be unified.

A Westerner like you looks at the issue from the perspective of the West, you will never solve the problem. Iraq is after 10 years still a hot mess. The West destabilized the entire region after 6-700 years of Turkish peace in just decades.

We will bring Pax Turcica to the ME in the near future inshallah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Ottomana

I'm not a Westerner. I'm an Arab. 

Do you really want another Ottoman Empire? I think every country should mind their own business. 



o_O.Q said:
PullusPardus said:
o_O.Q said:

so information pertaining to where ISIS initially came from is pointless to mention? lol ok

 

anyway that's right what makes any person smart is a willingness to see where the gaps in their knowledge are and to fill in those gaps

but evidently with regards to certain topics most people do not have that desire, which is of course by design

 

anyway there's no point in me posting anything else i'll let you carry on with the 

arabs just hate each other and will continue killing each other and the us is just there to bring about peace thing

because it makes you feel good and that is what is important not the truth but how we feel

for all the bullshit religious people get thrown at them i don't think people realise just how prevelent the religious mindset is outside of religion


Stop putting words in people's mouths. Stop thinking you're intellectually supperior 


have you realised that so far that is your only retort?

you seem to be more concerned with being offended that i may have shown you something you did not know than actually being appreciative that you gained the chance to learn something new

and that is where ego and lack of humility pay a part in keeping people ignorant

 

for example, you posted videos describing conflicts in the middle east which started in 1980 to demonstrate how i was wrong about united states influence

i then proceeded to show you how these conflicts were in fact influenced by the united states when zbigniew brezinzski funded the mujahideen

 

instead of simply admitting that you were mistaken you just dismissed it all as something you knew before hand

so you knew and yet you still posted that false bullshit about the conflicts without pointing out that they were caused by united states influence

 

so no it has nothing to do with intellect its just that you are too arrogant to allow yourself to see how you are wrong

truly amusing but whatever buddy carry on


Man please stop... you are basically going against your own preach...

Pullus being right or wrong already knew all the info you posted and disagree. Could you consider that he may know more than you or being open and humble only work for him but not you?

Quite possibily a separation from State/Church/Law System could help them some, othe thing would be for the ethinicies to form their own countries (like africa should, because in some countries they forced several rival tribes in the same space and now get atriction). But to believe all the shit we have know is because of USA or any western country is no sense. Well asking for country separation probably wouldn't work too much since no ethinicity would want to lose power and land.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
o_O.Q said:


have you realised that so far that is your only retort?

you seem to be more concerned with being offended that i may have shown you something you did not know than actually being appreciative that you gained the chance to learn something new

and that is where ego and lack of humility pay a part in keeping people ignorant

 

for example, you posted videos describing conflicts in the middle east which started in 1980 to demonstrate how i was wrong about united states influence

i then proceeded to show you how these conflicts were in fact influenced by the united states when zbigniew brezinzski funded the mujahideen

 

instead of simply admitting that you were mistaken you just dismissed it all as something you knew before hand

so you knew and yet you still posted that false bullshit about the conflicts without pointing out that they were caused by united states influence

 

so no it has nothing to do with intellect its just that you are too arrogant to allow yourself to see how you are wrong

truly amusing but whatever buddy carry on


Man please stop... you are basically going against your own preach...

Pullus being right or wrong already knew all the info you posted and disagree. Could you consider that he may know more than you or being open and humble only work for him but not you?

Quite possibily a separation from State/Church/Law System could help them some, othe thing would be for the ethinicies to form their own countries (like africa should, because in some countries they forced several rival tribes in the same space and now get atriction). But to believe all the shit we have know is because of USA or any western country is no sense. Well asking for country separation probably wouldn't work too much since no ethinicity would want to lose power and land.


well you clearly did not read our conversation

had he known about the influence the us had in the middle east going way back beyond the 1980s

he wouldn't have done something so ignorant as to imply that the conflicts there in the 1980s occured simply because they hated each other and not because they were influenced

i'd advise you to actually take the time and go back and read our conversation from the start because clearly you either didn't read it or didn't understand what you read



o_O.Q said:
DonFerrari said:
o_O.Q said:


have you realised that so far that is your only retort?

you seem to be more concerned with being offended that i may have shown you something you did not know than actually being appreciative that you gained the chance to learn something new

and that is where ego and lack of humility pay a part in keeping people ignorant

 

for example, you posted videos describing conflicts in the middle east which started in 1980 to demonstrate how i was wrong about united states influence

i then proceeded to show you how these conflicts were in fact influenced by the united states when zbigniew brezinzski funded the mujahideen

 

instead of simply admitting that you were mistaken you just dismissed it all as something you knew before hand

so you knew and yet you still posted that false bullshit about the conflicts without pointing out that they were caused by united states influence

 

so no it has nothing to do with intellect its just that you are too arrogant to allow yourself to see how you are wrong

truly amusing but whatever buddy carry on


Man please stop... you are basically going against your own preach...

Pullus being right or wrong already knew all the info you posted and disagree. Could you consider that he may know more than you or being open and humble only work for him but not you?

Quite possibily a separation from State/Church/Law System could help them some, othe thing would be for the ethinicies to form their own countries (like africa should, because in some countries they forced several rival tribes in the same space and now get atriction). But to believe all the shit we have know is because of USA or any western country is no sense. Well asking for country separation probably wouldn't work too much since no ethinicity would want to lose power and land.


well you clearly did not read our conversation

had he known about the influence the us had in the middle east going way back beyond the 1980s

he wouldn't have done something so ignorant as to imply that the conflicts there in the 1980s were simply because they hated each other and not because they were influenced

i'd advise you to actually take the time and go back and read our conversation from the start because clearly you either didn't read it or didn't understand what you read

I read... you assume too much... maybe just maybe you should consider the hypothesis that people may be more inteligent than you give then credit for.

So he posted some material from the 80's. You rethorted with things from earlier (that you still assume he had no knowledge instead of accepting after he answered that maybe he had the info but don't value it more than other info?)... you started assuming he was American and not Arab and from there own you were patronizing him and spouting inconsiderated offenses.

If you think they are at war because some papers show USA influence from before 80's (and just because it is older then it have more relevance) then 1400 year or more of history, tribalism, religious law opposing that should be more noteworthy. Or just your info hold value?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."