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Shortiloe said:
Damn, he is fuckig loud. Sounds so angry. Middle east is the biggest problem of the world.


I highly doubt that the west is the biggest problem in the world. Well actually its greed.

Example: Why do alot of africans run around with western weapons and force kids to look for diamonds so those can be sold to the west? Because we gave them weapons and want their diamonds.

We made chaos so money controls everything.    Just because we colonized africa the almost the whole continent is kinda fucked up.

We dont want safety and peace we give africans food (the only thing they can produce on their own) and therefore farmers are poor because noone buys their food. We should give them infrastructure and help them help themselves  but we want control.

Greed is the biggest problem




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o_O.Q said:


yup but not with the west since as i'm sure you are aware America didn't even exist back then

and it certainly wasn't on this scale

 

http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/namingthedead/only-4-of-drone-victims-in-pakistan-named-as-al-qaeda-members/?lang=en

 

that people can try to justify this shit speaks volumes to me

it tells me that despite your disregard for other people that you don't relise that ultimately  this is going to reach where you live and affect people you have connections with

you think by remaining ignorant that you will remain immune to this? lol


This is where I live though.  Please stop with your tinfoil stuff. It's not helping anyone.

It was on a larger scale than now the "Golden Age Of Islam" till the fall of the caliphate was full of death and despair. (Why do you think the caliphate fell? they kept killing each other. Everyone kept getting asassinated by the other) 

Iraqi and Iran war was a massacre.

 

The Massacre of Kurds in '88 

.

 

I can go on forever but no Its not the west. Arabs always hated each other. 



PullusPardus said:
o_O.Q said:


yup but not with the west since as i'm sure you are aware America didn't even exist back then

and it certainly wasn't on this scale

 

http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/

http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/namingthedead/only-4-of-drone-victims-in-pakistan-named-as-al-qaeda-members/?lang=en

 

that people can try to justify this shit speaks volumes to me

it tells me that despite your disregard for other people that you don't relise that ultimately  this is going to reach where you live and affect people you have connections with

you think by remaining ignorant that you will remain immune to this? lol


This is where I live though.  Please stop with your tinfoil stuff. It's not helping anyone.

It was on a larger scale than now the "Golden Age Of Islam" till the fall of the caliphate was full of death and despair. (Why do you think the caliphate fell? they kept killing each other. Everyone kept getting asassinated by the other) 

Iraqi and Iran war was a massacre.

 

The Massacre of Kurds in '88 

.

 

I can go on forever but no Its not the west. Arabs always hated each other. 


well jesus christ man you live there and you still don't understand????

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0        ~1979 or in other words directly before the conflict you posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw        ~hilary clinton's admission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

http://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/

 

you really thought i was only reffering to the recent war on terror?

the information is there for anyone who doesn't want to be ignorant

this right here is what i'm talking about

you've let the programming have such a profound influence upon yourself that you've let them massage you into actually thinking you know whats going on

the main barrier to actually learning something is having the preconceived notion that you know it already

and this is what allows them to control perception so easily

 

ultimately you have to allow yourself to admit that you were fooled and allowed them to continue fooling you

it is an extremely hard thing to do because no one ever likes to admit that they allowed someone to control them

but this is the reality, you can either choose to accept it or continue living in dreamland

and also you have to realise the harsh truth that remaining ignorant is not going to help when this reaches you eventually

 

the thing that gets me though is that they routinely tell the public about a lot of what they are doing

and people just sit their blankly waiting to be told how to interpret it

its like i punch a guy in the face in front of a group of people and admit to it

and lets say a week later the guys comes up and kicks my teeth in, but this time i don't admit i simply say he was the aggressor

its like the griup of people then say ok he's the bad guy so take him out

it truly is sad



PullusPardus said:

This is where I live though.  Please stop with your tinfoil stuff. It's not helping anyone.

It was on a larger scale than now the "Golden Age Of Islam" till the fall of the caliphate was full of death and despair. (Why do you think the caliphate fell? they kept killing each other. Everyone kept getting asassinated by the other) 

Iraqi and Iran war was a massacre.

The Massacre of Kurds in '88 

I can go on forever but no Its not the west. Arabs always hated each other. 

the europeans killed each other over and over aswell until the end of the 2nd WW

I hope people in the middle east will break through the circle of hate and learn to respect each other/coexist with each other aswell, preferably without such a large scale war.



Lafiel said:
PullusPardus said:

This is where I live though.  Please stop with your tinfoil stuff. It's not helping anyone.

It was on a larger scale than now the "Golden Age Of Islam" till the fall of the caliphate was full of death and despair. (Why do you think the caliphate fell? they kept killing each other. Everyone kept getting asassinated by the other) 

Iraqi and Iran war was a massacre.

The Massacre of Kurds in '88 

I can go on forever but no Its not the west. Arabs always hated each other. 

the europeans killed each other over and over aswell until the end of the 2nd WW

I hope people in the middle east will break through the circle of hate and learn to respect each other/coexist with each other aswell, preferably without such a large scale war.


Yeah I know. Yugoslavia (the nation's who segregated from it i mean) for example still hate each other even though it's been way too long and barely anyone remember it nowadays. 

I'm just saying it's not the west that triggered the hate. Arabs always hated each other. 

o_O:Q just seems to be hating USA for the sake of hating them. I'm sorry but I can't stand that conspiracy theory crap. It never helped anyone and it's useless tabloid junkie stuff I care about hard facts.

If I cared about superstitious beliefs, I'd still be Muslim.



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o_O.Q said:


well jesus christ man you live there and you still don't understand????

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0        ~1979 or in other words directly before the conflict you posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw        ~hilary clinton's admission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

http://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/

 

you really thought i was only reffering to the recent war on terror?

the information is there for anyone who doesn't want to be ignorant

this right here is what i'm talking about

you've let the programming have such a profound influence upon yourself that you've let them massage you into actually thinking you know whats going on

the main barrier to actually learning something is having the preconceived notion that you know it already

and this is what allows them to control perception so easily

 

ultimately you have to allow yourself to admit that you were fooled and allowed them to continue fooling you

it is an extremely hard thing to do because no one ever likes to admit that they allowed someone to control them

but this is the reality, you can either choose to accept it or continue living in dreamland

and also you have to realise the harsh truth that remaining ignorant is not going to help when this reaches you eventually

 

the thing that gets me though is that they routinely tell the public about a lot of what they are doing

and people just sit their blankly waiting to be told how to interpret it

its like i punch a guy in the face in front of a group of people and admit to it

and lets say a week later the guys comes up and kicks my teeth in, but this time i don't admit i simply say he was the aggressor

its like the griup of people then say ok he's the bad guy so take him out

it truly is sad

We ALL know all of this. I don't think these are even worth mentioning. However the fact is that we Arabs always had been in conflict. 

USA didn't create Alqaeda they created Taliban to combat Russian led Mujahedeen through a proxy war like they did with Cuba and Germany... Etc 

However Taliban went against USA and formed Alqaeda led by Osama bin Laden (who is a Saudi that owns the bin Laden company in Saudia that is right now the most profitable real estate company in the world and is trying to build the tallest country in the world in Saudia)

 

Yes I know all about the cold war it's not exactly hidden from the masses or anything



PullusPardus said:
o_O.Q said:


well jesus christ man you live there and you still don't understand????

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0        ~1979 or in other words directly before the conflict you posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw        ~hilary clinton's admission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

http://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/

 

you really thought i was only reffering to the recent war on terror?

the information is there for anyone who doesn't want to be ignorant

this right here is what i'm talking about

you've let the programming have such a profound influence upon yourself that you've let them massage you into actually thinking you know whats going on

the main barrier to actually learning something is having the preconceived notion that you know it already

and this is what allows them to control perception so easily

 

ultimately you have to allow yourself to admit that you were fooled and allowed them to continue fooling you

it is an extremely hard thing to do because no one ever likes to admit that they allowed someone to control them

but this is the reality, you can either choose to accept it or continue living in dreamland

and also you have to realise the harsh truth that remaining ignorant is not going to help when this reaches you eventually

 

the thing that gets me though is that they routinely tell the public about a lot of what they are doing

and people just sit their blankly waiting to be told how to interpret it

its like i punch a guy in the face in front of a group of people and admit to it

and lets say a week later the guys comes up and kicks my teeth in, but this time i don't admit i simply say he was the aggressor

its like the griup of people then say ok he's the bad guy so take him out

it truly is sad

We ALL know all of this. I don't think these are even worth mentioning. However the fact is that we Arabs always had been in conflict. 

USA didn't create Alqaeda they created Taliban to combat Russian led Mujahedeen through a proxy war like they did with Cuba and Germany... Etc 

However Taliban went against USA and formed Alqaeda led by Osama bin Laden (who is a Saudi that owns the bin Laden company in Saudia that is right now the most profitable real estate company in the world and is trying to build the tallest country in the world in Saudia)

 

Yes I know all about the cold war it's not exactly hidden from the masses or anything


well thanks for proving my point anyway

oh and btw osama was involved with the CIA also

just like the shah, just like saddam hussein etc etc etc

you just do not get it

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMrJu8Gx9eY     the shah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk35suofbYQ      saddam hussein

 

currently there is not much evidence linking osama bin laden to the CIA but lets be real here 

only a moron would not be able to see the pattern that is evident here

 

btw most regions where people live today have fought other regions in the past 

for example the whites in Europe fought and were enslaved by muslims back 800s

do you see now how irrelevent it sounds to say oh they have fought each other for a long time so this doesn't matter?



o_O.Q said:


well thanks for proving my point anyway

oh and btw osama was involved with the CIA also

just like the shah, just like saddam hussein etc etc etc

you just do not get it

 

btw saying most regions where people live today have fought other regions in the past 

for example the whites in Europe fought and were enslaved by muslims back 800s

do you see now how irrelevent it sounds to say oh they have fought each other for a long time so this doesn't matter?


Again everyone in the world knows that adding a "u don't geddit" at the end doesn't make you smarter than everyone. Please stop stating obvious stuff thinking they're top secret spy stuff.

No its still pointless to mention. Arabs always hated each other from the dawn of time.



PullusPardus said:
o_O.Q said:


well thanks for proving my point anyway

oh and btw osama was involved with the CIA also

just like the shah, just like saddam hussein etc etc etc

you just do not get it

 

btw saying most regions where people live today have fought other regions in the past 

for example the whites in Europe fought and were enslaved by muslims back 800s

do you see now how irrelevent it sounds to say oh they have fought each other for a long time so this doesn't matter?


Again everyone in the world knows that adding a "u don't geddit" at the end doesn't make you smarter than everyone. Please stop stating obvious stuff thinking they're top secret spy stuff.

No its still pointless to mention. Arabs always hated each other from the dawn of time.

so information pertaining to where ISIS initially came from is pointless to mention? lol ok

 

anyway that's right what makes any person smart is a willingness to see where the gaps in their knowledge are and to fill in those gaps

but evidently with regards to certain topics most people do not have that desire, which is of course by design

 

anyway there's no point in me posting anything else i'll let you carry on with the 

arabs just hate each other and will continue killing each other and the us is just there to bring about peace thing

because it makes you feel good and that is what is important not the truth but how we feel

for all the bullshit religious people get thrown at them i don't think people realise just how prevelent the religious mindset is outside of religion



o_O.Q said:

so information pertaining to where ISIS initially came from is pointless to mention? lol ok

 

anyway that's right what makes any person smart is a willingness to see where the gaps in their knowledge are and to fill in those gaps

but evidently with regards to certain topics most people do not have that desire, which is of course by design

 

anyway there's no point in me posting anything else i'll let you carry on with the 

arabs just hate each other and will continue killing each other and the us is just there to bring about peace thing

because it makes you feel good and that is what is important not the truth but how we feel

for all the bullshit religious people get thrown at them i don't think people realise just how prevelent the religious mindset is outside of religion


Stop putting words in people's mouths. Stop thinking you're intellectually supperior