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CGI-Quality said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Captain_Tom said:

I don't know I am sitting here looking at 1080p vs 720p.  That is over double.  The gap is bigger than you think.  Sticky this post if you want to.  Two years from now the PS4 and Xbox One will have graphics that are mountains apart.

Destiny didn't have that disparity. :-p

Anyhow, I'm not gonna say you're wrong. But I feel like you're wrong... so lets just wait and see.

Destiny was made with parity in mind. Definitely not a useful example in regards to system differences.

Sure, Destiny is a cross platform game, also running on PS360. It doesn't push at all graphics, and still PS4 looks and perform better !

System differences will never change, hardware will never change.  But I agree if people say PS4 is not 4X times more powerful than XOne as Shadow of Mordor would suggest = 1080p/60fps VS 720p/30fps.  



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Some pics from Xbone version... looks 900p (and some guy in Beyong3D said that), bad aliasing and texture filtering lol

 



Either its a false rumour and just a bunch of fanboys spreading there lies or that the developers got lazy again with the X1 version of the game and are just porting the game across to the X1 without proper optimisation. If this continues and MS have to keep putting them inline by helping them, then I hope these companies fold. They don't deserve anybody's money if they plan on screwing over some of there fans who game on different systems. If your going to go multiplat then at least try your best. Stop with these half-assed ports. Especially when its proven there's not much difference between the 2 systems. I can sort of understand if this was the Wii U.



Azzanation said:
Either its a false rumour and just a bunch of fanboys spreading there lies or that the developers got lazy again with the X1 version of the game and are just porting the game across to the X1 without proper optimisation. If this continues and MS have to keep putting them inline by helping them, then I hope these companies fold. They don't deserve anybody's money if they plan on screwing over some of there fans who game on different systems. If your going to go multiplat then at least try your best. Stop with these half-assed ports. Especially when its proven there's not much difference between the 2 systems. I can sort of understand if this was the Wii U.


Uhh.

(1)- This thread was started based on some unfounded rumors. Basically it's all but confirmed that the XB1 version is 900p with some further visual options lowered in order to meet 30fps. In that way, this thread should probably get a mod edit to the title and be locked, but perhaps they're waiting for the official article about it to come out. It's no mystery now, people can pixel count, and raw images from X1 show it to be ... ugly, but at least it's not 720p.

(2)- MS has only been able to 'help' with games that are graphically weak anyway. Destiny = cross gen game started on gen7 consoles. Diablo 3 = don't make me laugh. 1080p for X1 is only reachable with undemanding titles. That's just the way it is. If Microsoft was able to get everything to 1080p, don't you think they would? Do I have to list all the X1 exclusives that aren't 1080p? Ryse, Dead Rising, Sunset Overdrive, etc. Oh, and then the absolute slew of multiplats. Just wait for Far Cry 4, COD:AW, Batman, Witcher 3, and Assassin's Creed, every single one of them will be sub-1080p on X1.

What you have to accept is that 'doing their best' by the X1 is still going to result in a degraded product graphically. It doesn't mean the game won't be fun. For some people graphics don't make that much difference, while for others it really helps.

As for 'there's not much difference between the 2 systems', that's just ridiculous. The hardware difference is rather substantial in terms of memory and graphics capability, and I'm not going to pollute the internet further by repeating it for the 53 billionth time. It amounts to roughly a 40-50% gap in horsepower, and guess what? That usually translates to 40-50% more pixels being pushed on more demanding PS4 multiplats. Big surprise, eh? If you, or anyone else doesn't think that matters, that's fine. Hell that's great. Have fun either way, that's what it's all about. But it can't be denied that it exists.

If I had a 32" 720p TV, I wouldn't care. But I don't, I can easily see the difference between native 1080p, and upscaled content. BF4 PS4 looks ... kind of bad actually on a decent screen. I don't want anything to do with 900p, 792p, etc. PROVIDED there is an alternative. Sometimes there is, and sometimes there isn't. A good enough game is worth playing even if the graphics are a bit muddy and blurry, but it's even better when it's NOT degraded because of slower hardware.



Arkaign said:
Azzanation said:
Either its a false rumour and just a bunch of fanboys spreading there lies or that the developers got lazy again with the X1 version of the game and are just porting the game across to the X1 without proper optimisation. If this continues and MS have to keep putting them inline by helping them, then I hope these companies fold. They don't deserve anybody's money if they plan on screwing over some of there fans who game on different systems. If your going to go multiplat then at least try your best. Stop with these half-assed ports. Especially when its proven there's not much difference between the 2 systems. I can sort of understand if this was the Wii U.


Uhh.

(1)- This thread was started based on some unfounded rumors. Basically it's all but confirmed that the XB1 version is 900p with some further visual options lowered in order to meet 30fps. In that way, this thread should probably get a mod edit to the title and be locked, but perhaps they're waiting for the official article about it to come out. It's no mystery now, people can pixel count, and raw images from X1 show it to be ... ugly, but at least it's not 720p.

(2)- MS has only been able to 'help' with games that are graphically weak anyway. Destiny = cross gen game started on gen7 consoles. Diablo 3 = don't make me laugh. 1080p for X1 is only reachable with undemanding titles. That's just the way it is. If Microsoft was able to get everything to 1080p, don't you think they would? Do I have to list all the X1 exclusives that aren't 1080p? Ryse, Dead Rising, Sunset Overdrive, etc. Oh, and then the absolute slew of multiplats. Just wait for Far Cry 4, COD:AW, Batman, Witcher 3, and Assassin's Creed, every single one of them will be sub-1080p on X1.

What you have to accept is that 'doing their best' by the X1 is still going to result in a degraded product graphically. It doesn't mean the game won't be fun. For some people graphics don't make that much difference, while for others it really helps.

As for 'there's not much difference between the 2 systems', that's just ridiculous. The hardware difference is rather substantial in terms of memory and graphics capability, and I'm not going to pollute the internet further by repeating it for the 53 billionth time. It amounts to roughly a 40-50% gap in horsepower, and guess what? That usually translates to 40-50% more pixels being pushed on more demanding PS4 multiplats. Big surprise, eh? If you, or anyone else doesn't think that matters, that's fine. Hell that's great. Have fun either way, that's what it's all about. But it can't be denied that it exists.

If I had a 32" 720p TV, I wouldn't care. But I don't, I can easily see the difference between native 1080p, and upscaled content. BF4 PS4 looks ... kind of bad actually on a decent screen. I don't want anything to do with 900p, 792p, etc. PROVIDED there is an alternative. Sometimes there is, and sometimes there isn't. A good enough game is worth playing even if the graphics are a bit muddy and blurry, but it's even better when it's NOT degraded because of slower hardware.

1. Launch titles and early titles for XB1 were handicapped by Kinect and old SKUs which isnt the case now.

2. MS only have so much man power and a budget to get these games running equal to PS4.

3. Ryse is still the best looking game on both next gen consoles. (has won awards to prove it)

4. Companies like this dont care and rather screw over a fanbase with cheap ports.

5. Theres not one game the PS4 can do that the XB1 cant do.

6. The fact you defend this by claiming the PS4 is still 50% more powerful then the XB1 when its been proven its 50% FASTER to develop for the PS4 then the XB1 which is why companies choose to make games on it rather then the XB1. (leaving half-assed ports)

7. The XB1 and PS4 have the same amount of memory (Ram)

8. Both GPUS are all off the same line and are both close to being identical (If i had to PCs running both GPUs, i wouldnt notice a differnce, maybe 5 frames just like D3)

9. MS have proven theres not much difference since Destiny isnt mindblowing but if the PS4 was 50% more powerful (lol) then Destiny would run at a smoother framerate not the same. 

10. If both consoles had the right amount of time to make the games for them (XB1 having alittle more time in development) then you wont notice any difference.

11. The XB1 runs a faster CPU 1.75ghz vs 1.6ghz

12. I game on PC/Steam, i dont even like consoles.



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Azzanation said:

1. Launch titles and early titles for XB1 were handicapped by Kinect and old SKUs which isnt the case now.

2. MS only have so much man power and a budget to get these games running equal to PS4.

3. Ryse is still the best looking game on both next gen consoles. (has won awards to prove it)

4. Companies like this dont care and rather screw over a fanbase with cheap ports.

5. Theres not one game the PS4 can do that the XB1 cant do.

6. The fact you defend this by claiming the PS4 is still 50% more powerful then the XB1 when its been proven its 50% FASTER to develop for the PS4 then the XB1 which is why companies choose to make games on it rather then the XB1. (leaving half-assed ports)

7. The XB1 and PS4 have the same amount of memory (Ram)

8. Both GPUS are all off the same line and are both close to being identical (If i had to PCs running both GPUs, i wouldnt notice a differnce, maybe 5 frames just like D3)

9. MS have proven theres not much difference since Destiny isnt mindblowing but if the PS4 was 50% more powerful (lol) then Destiny would run at a smoother framerate not the same. 

10. If both consoles had the right amount of time to make the games for them (XB1 having alittle more time in development) then you wont notice any difference.

11. The XB1 runs a faster CPU 1.75ghz vs 1.6ghz

12. I game on PC/Steam, i dont even like consoles.


Oh my... So much ignorance and misinformation in a single post. I don't even know where to start... xD



Hynad said:
Azzanation said:

1. Launch titles and early titles for XB1 were handicapped by Kinect and old SKUs which isnt the case now.

2. MS only have so much man power and a budget to get these games running equal to PS4.

3. Ryse is still the best looking game on both next gen consoles. (has won awards to prove it)

4. Companies like this dont care and rather screw over a fanbase with cheap ports.

5. Theres not one game the PS4 can do that the XB1 cant do.

6. The fact you defend this by claiming the PS4 is still 50% more powerful then the XB1 when its been proven its 50% FASTER to develop for the PS4 then the XB1 which is why companies choose to make games on it rather then the XB1. (leaving half-assed ports)

7. The XB1 and PS4 have the same amount of memory (Ram)

8. Both GPUS are all off the same line and are both close to being identical (If i had to PCs running both GPUs, i wouldnt notice a differnce, maybe 5 frames just like D3)

9. MS have proven theres not much difference since Destiny isnt mindblowing but if the PS4 was 50% more powerful (lol) then Destiny would run at a smoother framerate not the same. 

10. If both consoles had the right amount of time to make the games for them (XB1 having alittle more time in development) then you wont notice any difference.

11. The XB1 runs a faster CPU 1.75ghz vs 1.6ghz

12. I game on PC/Steam, i dont even like consoles.


Oh my... So much ignorance and misinformation in a single post. I don't even know where to start... xD

I am just not blinded by fanboy crap or marketing hype.



Azzanation said:

3. Ryse is still the best looking game on both next gen consoles. (has won awards to prove it)

7. The XB1 and PS4 have the same amount of memory (Ram)

Ryse was the best looking game on PS4/XB1, till Infamous: Second Son came out. Now Infamous: Second Son is easily the best looking current-gen game, and it runs at a higher resolution than Ryse which makes it even more impressive.

Also PS4's GDDR5 RAM is a lot faster than XB1's DDR3 RAM, even if they have the same amount of memory.



GTAexpert said:
Azzanation said:
 

3. Ryse is still the best looking game on both next gen consoles. (has won awards to prove it)

7. The XB1 and PS4 have the same amount of memory (Ram)

Ryse was the best looking game on PS4/XB1, till Infamous: Second Son came out. Now Infamous: Second Son is easily the best looking current-gen game, and it runs at a higher resolution than Ryse which makes it even more impressive.

Also PS4's GDDR5 RAM is a lot faster than XB1's DDR3 RAM, even if they have the same amount of memory.

No dude ISS is not betting  looking then Ryse, if your going to make claimes then atleast prove it. Ryse just recently won SIGGRAPH. Any normal gamer would tell you Ryse looks heaps better. Theres more to it then 1080p and if 1080p makes the difference then Knack most look better then BF4 on PS4 since that only runs at 900p.

XB1 uses ESram. They both still only use 8 gigs of Ram.



I am not here to argue petty things with console gamers. I am simply stating how it works. Sony claimed the PS3 to be TWICE the power of the 360 and on paper it was. Now watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZg8ebaARmY

Now many of you would claim the PS3 was harder to develop for which is correct however if they took the time with the PS3 version then it would of looked very close to the 360 version maybe even better. Just like the XB1 being a little harder to develop for. If the developers spend the time on the game then they can achieve the same, especially since there's not much difference between the 2 in hardware terms. Those who still claim the PS4 being 50% more powerful? well that's what Sony told you, just like there PS3 claim over the 360 and still to this day I hear fanboys say the PS2 was the most powerful console over the Gamecube and Xbox. Don't believe everything they say, MS are proving that there games can run the same and this is my point. Lazy developers are the only reason we are seeing these bad ports.