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BeElite said:
ninjaman003 said:

I was talking about bias, you claim that nintendo fans are more biased because of the Wii U's low sales? I guess as an xbox fan you can't defend your console of choice. 

I claim that a fan of any game or series can become overzealous about their beliefs.

Ratings>Sales for determining if a game is good. You're saying Wii Sports is the best game of all time.(that completely destroys your own arguement.)

Where the hell did you get they are more bias due to sales ? LOL me a xbox fan.  

Console sale buddy.  Over the last gens its not nintendo games that have pushed the most consoles.  

I don't know, but that's all I could get out of what you said. Also if you're not an xbox fan, citing Halo as your main argument against Nintendo doesn't make any sense.

Edit: you said "guess what, it is just Nintendo fans" so I just assumed that you meant what I was talking about and then went straight to sales.



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ninjaman003 said:
BeElite said:
ninjaman003 said:

I was talking about bias, you claim that nintendo fans are more biased because of the Wii U's low sales? I guess as an xbox fan you can't defend your console of choice. 

I claim that a fan of any game or series can become overzealous about their beliefs.

Ratings>Sales for determining if a game is good. You're saying Wii Sports is the best game of all time.(that completely destroys your own arguement.)

Where the hell did you get they are more bias due to sales ? LOL me a xbox fan.  

Console sale buddy.  Over the last gens its not nintendo games that have pushed the most consoles.  

I don't know, but that's all I could get out of what you said. Also if you're not an xbox fan, citing Halo as your main argument against Nintendo doesn't make any sense.

Read the whole thread maybe, thread is plain as day.  

Im not gonna rehash it all for you.  



BeElite said:
ninjaman003 said:
BeElite said:
ninjaman003 said:

I was talking about bias, you claim that nintendo fans are more biased because of the Wii U's low sales? I guess as an xbox fan you can't defend your console of choice. 

I claim that a fan of any game or series can become overzealous about their beliefs.

Ratings>Sales for determining if a game is good. You're saying Wii Sports is the best game of all time.(that completely destroys your own arguement.)

Where the hell did you get they are more bias due to sales ? LOL me a xbox fan.  

Console sale buddy.  Over the last gens its not nintendo games that have pushed the most consoles.  

I don't know, but that's all I could get out of what you said. Also if you're not an xbox fan, citing Halo as your main argument against Nintendo doesn't make any sense.

Read the whole thread maybe, thread is plain as day.  

Im not gonna rehash it all for you.  

I thought you were just replying to what I said, but okay, you can be that way.

I understand that nintendo is not pushing consoles at all, but we were talking about bias and the actual quality of the games. I don't know if you're trying to confuse me, but I'll take it we're just not on the same page, and if you don't want to talk about this than just don't reply.



ninjaman003 said:

I thought you were just replying to what I said, but okay, you can be that way.

I understand that nintendo is not pushing consoles at all, but we were talking about bias and the actual quality of the games. I don't know if you're trying to confuse me, but I'll take it we're just not on the same page, and if you don't want to talk about this than just don't reply.


lol seems we are not, you seemd to jump into my and the other dudes post.  



BeElite said:
ninjaman003 said:

I thought you were just replying to what I said, but okay, you can be that way.

I understand that nintendo is not pushing consoles at all, but we were talking about bias and the actual quality of the games. I don't know if you're trying to confuse me, but I'll take it we're just not on the same page, and if you don't want to talk about this than just don't reply.


lol seems we are not, you seemd to jump into my and the other dudes post.  

That's actually exactly what I did, sorry for the confusion.



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BeElite said:
HBninjaX said:
BeElite said:

 

HBninjaX said:
BeElite said:
HBninjaX said:
BeElite said:

Yes but i don't even thinks that's really a strategy of theirs, they just don't know how to make games of other types. Its a competence issue, if they believed they could make a Halo or COD they would at least try.


yeah but Halo and COD aren't really good games though they do sell a lot

I do agree with the original poster though...  they need to get rid of the stigma that the system is just for 'fun for the whole family' and adopt a sexier image while not losing the family friendly one.  The next system should look slick, have a slick name, and have a massive assortment of "adult" games and a marketing campaign that is designed to sell the sizzle --like it's a sportscar, not a station wagon


lost all credability right there, Halo is as good if not better as anything nintendo can do.  

honestly i don't care if I lost credibility in your eyes if you believe that COD and Halo are examples of good games.  Call of Duty went downhill fast after Modern Warfare 2.  Now it's a simple arena shooter from early 2000 with different skins/guns (heck now they're copying Titan Fall)  Halo may have been revolutionary on the original Xbox system but it's simply another "me too" shooter.  They're both crap games that are cashing in on ignorant "gamers"

And mario was revolutionary on the NES.....

So a ME TO SHOOTER is crap when 3 decades later mario is the same damn thing, run and jump but its not crap.  

Isent nintendo cashing in on ignorant gamers to by rehashing the same thing for 30 years ?

hypocracy is strong with you.

When did I make those claims about mario?  You said Nintendo couldn't make games as good as COD and Halo.  I made the true statement that COD has gone downhill fast since Modern Warfare 2.  I recently played HALO on my 6 year old nephews Xbox and came to the conclusion that the game has not changed whatsoever since the original xbox game.  My point is your taste in games is bad so the whole 'competence issue' is not a good argument.

You are ignroant enough to think that your tastes are good yet others are bad then there no point in debating anything with you.


I'm ignorant?  Self-awareness fail.  

Anyway, your orginal argument is still bad regardless because Bungie and all the CoD developers are all 3rd party.  Sony and Microsoft simply make consoles and sign exclusive deals with actual developers 



HBninjaX said:




I'm ignorant?  Self-awareness fail.  

Anyway, your orginal argument is still bad regardless because Bungie and all the CoD developers are all 3rd party.  Sony and Microsoft simply make consoles and sign exclusive deals with actual developers 


Yahh Uncharted TLoU Ratchet Jak Crash Spyro Motorstorm Resistance Killzone Socom Mag DriveClub Order GoW Blodborne Souls Ico and so on and on and on must be just my imagination.

lmao keep it coming, i need a few more good laughs.



BeElite said:
Nem said:

Look at the Wii. Its far from failing.

With that said, its a hit or miss thing. But Nintendo clearly wants to target the whole segment and not just kids.

miss miss miss hit miss

It seems more of a miss thing and one fluke.  


So the SNES wasnt a sucess? The portables werent sucesses?



Nem said:

Look at the Wii. Its far from failing.

No no, that was just a motion control fad dude.



noname2200 said:
Nem said:

Look at the Wii. Its far from failing.

No no, that was just a motion control fad dude.


That is how you target the family segment. You need to make a fad that they care about.

What is the DS and 3DS but fad's aswell?