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NeoRatt said:

Let me make myself clear...

X1 will release just as many indie games as PS4 by the end of 2014...

There are no lies on Sony's delays...  Where is last guardian (5 years), The Agent (5 years), Killzone 2 was demo'd at E3 in 2005 (3 years before it actually shipped), Drive Club (delayed one year)... TLOU was demod at E3 2012 as a holiday game but shipped in May-June 2013...  Beyond was supposed to be a spring 2013 game but ended up moving to fall. 

MS has announced just as many games as sony both in 2014 and 2015...  Go look at the conferences ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ANNOUNCEMENT.

As for games lists that is petty...  What counts is what actually ships.

I have played previous Guilty Gears.  I was very clear that my views were based on the IP history.  I didn't claim I know anything about the new one.

Sony gamers last generation made the rules about digital games and I was very clear that...

Analogies are analogies... You might not have been able to figure out but I know many others did because the PM'd me thanking me.  They just are tired of dealing with the Sony gamers always piling onto them with every non-postive sony comment.

The PS4 is over-hyped, and I made it clear several times in this thread that I feel every console in this gen is over-hyped.  It is only sony fans that are questioning that in this thread...  What is so wrong with you guys admitting that you wasted $400 for recycled games?  I did...

"The best" is a matter of opinion... So, far after buying and playing every game this generation on ALL consoles I think Sony has done the worst job...  But, none of the consoles are doing great so when you compare crap to crap there is not much difference... 

You can try and say I lied, but I was straight up all the way...

 

the last of us never was 2013 game.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-confirms-the-last-of-us-demo/1100-6402894/



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Aura7541 said:
NeoRatt said:
Aura7541 said:

Well the PS4 covers both quality and quantity, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at...

Let's review your several mishaps:

  • You lied about the X1 catching up to the PS4 on indies. As soon as I mentioned that PS4 had some indies coming up for the rest of 2014, you replied with "I haven't mentioned any indies...".
  • You lied about the current Sony announcing all their games too early by a year or more. Most of their delayed games were delayed for a few months. The only game that was delayed for a long time was Driveclub. You even went as far as to claim that The Last of Us was announced for 2011 and was delayed until 2013.
  • Ninsect and I gave a really huge list of announced games for the PS4-only, Playstation-only, or PS4/PC only. You decided to move the goalposts and tried to limit to only games from now to the end of 2014. Doesn't work that way, bud.
  • When you tried to make a list that matched Ninsect's, you just gave a bunch of random titles no one has even heard about. Seriously, Fruit Ninja 2?Halo Channel?Goat Simulator?!! Heck, you even put Tomb Raider to inflate that list even though it'll eventually be out on PS4 and PC.
  • You claimed that Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN- isn't good despite never playing it while people who have played it in demos during E3, for instance, had positive feedback on the game. Doesn't matter if the previous titles weren't good. The impressions of the demo of Xrd were positive.
  • You also lied about PS3 fans making the rule that "digital games don't count." Mike_L gave you a nice long list of games he downloaded on his PS3.
  • You gave a horrible analogy by comparing the PS4 to a car frame. However, a car and the PS4 are machines. Thus, they should be compared at their entireties. If you want to compare the PS4 to a car frame, only compare the PS4's plastic casing, for goodness sakes!!
  • It's pretty darn clear that the PS4 is not overhyped because otherwise, you wouldn't have done all of the above. You were merely trying to fabricate a lie no one believed whatsoever.

Overall, the PS4 still has the better offerings for the rest of 2014. Halo MCC, Forza Horizon 2, and Sunset Overdrive vs. Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Natural Doctrine, and Samurai Warriors 4. On top of that, the PS4 will have exclusive content for Destiny for a year and for Far Cry 4 where another person can join his/her playthrough online without having to own the game. The PS4 gets the better performing multiplats as icing on the cake. One console has a repetitive theme while the other is multidimensional. Consumers are going to stick with the one that offers a lot more diversity, quantity, and quality. Not bad for an "overhyped" console.

Let me make myself clear...

X1 will release just as many indie games as PS4 by the end of 2014...

There are no lies on Sony's delays...  Where is last guardian (5 years), The Agent (5 years), Killzone 2 was demo'd at E3 in 2005 (3 years before it actually shipped), Drive Club (delayed one year)... TLOU was demod at E3 2012 as a holiday game but shipped in May-June 2013...  Beyond was supposed to be a spring 2013 game but ended up moving to fall. 

MS has announced just as many games as sony both in 2014 and 2015...  Go look at the conferences ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ANNOUNCEMENT.

As for games lists that is petty...  What counts is what actually ships.

I have played previous Guilty Gears.  I was very clear that my views were based on the IP history.  I didn't claim I know anything about the new one.

Sony gamers last generation made the rules about digital games and I was very clear that...

Analogies are analogies... You might not have been able to figure out but I know many others did because the PM'd me thanking me.  They just are tired of dealing with the Sony gamers always piling onto them with every non-postive sony comment.

The PS4 is over-hyped, and I made it clear several times in this thread that I feel every console in this gen is over-hyped.  It is only sony fans that are questioning that in this thread...  What is so wrong with you guys admitting that you wasted $400 for recycled games?  I did...

"The best" is a matter of opinion... So, far after buying and playing every game this generation on ALL consoles I think Sony has done the worst job...  But, none of the consoles are doing great so when you compare crap to crap there is not much difference... 

You can try and say I lied, but I was straight up all the way...

 

You were very dishonest in your posts and people can easily look back to see them. It's as clear as day. You made up a lot of things that weren't true just so that they could fit your argument that "the PS4 is overhyped". For instance, MS did not match Sony announcement for announcement. Your very own list proves that when compared to Ninsect's and mine. The majority of people called you out on that and obviously, you denied because you made such extreme and outrageous of a claim. The PS4 is not overhyped and saying all consoles are overyhyped doesn't omit you from being called out for saying unreasonable things. The PS4 may not be for you, but it doesn't mean it's not for everyone else. To you (and only you, for that matter. No one else has really sided with you.), the PS4 is overhyped. However, to the vast majority, the PS4 is not overhyped.

Like I said there was no dishonesty.  Your constant personal attacks should be subject to a ban.



NeoRatt said:
Aura7541 said:

You were very dishonest in your posts and people can easily look back to see them. It's as clear as day. You made up a lot of things that weren't true just so that they could fit your argument that "the PS4 is overhyped". For instance, MS did not match Sony announcement for announcement. Your very own list proves that when compared to Ninsect's and mine. The majority of people called you out on that and obviously, you denied because you made such extreme and outrageous of a claim. The PS4 is not overhyped and saying all consoles are overyhyped doesn't omit you from being called out for saying unreasonable things. The PS4 may not be for you, but it doesn't mean it's not for everyone else. To you (and only you, for that matter. No one else has really sided with you.), the PS4 is overhyped. However, to the vast majority, the PS4 is not overhyped.

Like I said there was no dishonesty.  Your constant personal attacks should be subject to a ban.

When comparing your list to Ninsect's and mine, for example, the ratio of MS's and Sony's announcements weren't one to one. It was not even close. Heck, a bunch of those titles you've listed I've never heard of or don't count..... Halo Channel, for example, is one of them. You claimed that MS matched Sony announcement for announcement (in all caps, too), but the reality is that MS didn't. Therefore, you didn't tell the truth.



Landguy said:




Clearly, the PS4 has more games available on it.  No debate there.

But, if your going to use Metacritic, which is just a compilation of others opinions, you make your point kind of mute. The total is black and white.   The listing of a group of opinions is not a definition in itself. What is the total of games that released a retail release on the PS4/XB1 and their combined ratings? Then you could list a crapload of ports that are only being ported because they were popular on another format.  For the ports, they would mostly have good ratings or they wouldn't have sold well and they wouldn't be ported to begin with.  The numbers are skewed either way.  The only games list that MOST people care about are the system exclusives.  Not the ports or minigames, even though they are nice to have when the gaps between major releases happen(first 18 months of any console launch). 

Nobody will convince me that any significant amount of buyers are getting any of the 3(PS4/XB1/WiiU) 8th gen systems for the indies and ports.  The metacritic scores are mostly meaningless to buyers(look at COD/BF/AC games or Flappy Bird) of games.  Even then, critics score games based on the intent of the game, meaning that they consider that it is a port or indie game and rate it against games of that nature.

If someone doesn't have a cell phone or tablet or PC, then the other games have a lot more value and might actually sell to them.  The problem is, that most people  have one of those three items.  Most of the indies/ports are available that way or have a nearly identical game to it.  There are MILLIONS of games available to those 3 platforms. 

The point of this OP isn't proving anything.  People already know that if they are going to buy a PS4 or XB1, its about the retail games.  Of the retail games, it's only the AAA that really matter.  With that in mind, both systems are very similar.  For this list to make sense, I would have to sell 3 cell phones, 4 computers, 4 tablets in my home before i would start to care for most of the titles for either of the 2 systems.


I just have to ask why are AAA retail games the only ones that matter? What sense does that make to people who buy a console to play whatever games are on it AAA or not. What is the crazy fixation people(forum folks anyway) have with AAA games? Is a game bad or not worth it if it is not AAA? And your last sentence is irrelevant as well. I have 2 desktop computers, 2 laptops, 3 tablets, quite a few cell phones etc but guess what I do not game on my computers AT ALL and rarely do it on my cell or tablets. So for me all those indie/f2p games matter a lot.(just showing that your statement has 2 sides). 

The point being all the OP is doing is clearing up the PS4 has no games mess that people constantly say. It shows the games available for both the XB1 and PS4. And even for the people who say it has no games they want to play then they must only play exclusive games and NO 3rd party games what so ever then or that statement is still false.....

Not sure how this thread went the direction it did. 



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I honestly don't get where the whole "X1 has a better lineup" stuff came from. The Ps4 has way more games, way more consistently. It doesn't make any sense.



FATALITY said:
NeoRatt said:

 

the last of us never was 2013 game.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-confirms-the-last-of-us-demo/1100-6402894/


http://www.computerandvideogames.com/334398/the-last-of-us-first-details-arrive/

TLOU was supposed to ship late-2012 or early-2013...  It shipped mid 2013. DELAYED!



wary-wallaroo said:
I honestly don't get where the whole "X1 has a better lineup" stuff came from. The Ps4 has way more games, way more consistently. It doesn't make any sense.

Exactly. X1 doesn't even closely match the PS4 when it comes to games.



enditall727 said:

Yea, you have to say that "PS4 has no games i want" when compared to the X1.. Which i'm not sure if you were trying to do or not

Nope, really don't. It's clear what anyone is meaning when they say that.

People ask me all the time why I don't have a PS4 yet. I always reply: no games. They seem to understand just fine. Many of them say the same thing about Xbone. That's fine. I don't point out to them that actually there are many games you can buy right now on an Xbox One.



Aura7541 said:
NeoRatt said:
Aura7541 said:

You were very dishonest in your posts and people can easily look back to see them. It's as clear as day. You made up a lot of things that weren't true just so that they could fit your argument that "the PS4 is overhyped". For instance, MS did not match Sony announcement for announcement. Your very own list proves that when compared to Ninsect's and mine. The majority of people called you out on that and obviously, you denied because you made such extreme and outrageous of a claim. The PS4 is not overhyped and saying all consoles are overyhyped doesn't omit you from being called out for saying unreasonable things. The PS4 may not be for you, but it doesn't mean it's not for everyone else. To you (and only you, for that matter. No one else has really sided with you.), the PS4 is overhyped. However, to the vast majority, the PS4 is not overhyped.

Like I said there was no dishonesty.  Your constant personal attacks should be subject to a ban.

When comparing your list to Ninsect's and mine, for example, the ratio of MS's and Sony's announcements weren't one to one. It was not even close. Heck, a bunch of those titles you've listed I've never heard of or don't count..... Halo Channel, for example, is one of them. You claimed that MS matched Sony announcement for announcement (in all caps, too), but the reality is that MS didn't. Therefore, you didn't tell the truth.

Go and look thru E3, Gamescom, TGS, Pax Prime, and all the other announcements since E3... Go list everything from every conferrence in detail by both Sony and MS...  They will match up nicely.  If you don't please shut up and stop saying they weren't