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Since when is Europe just 3:1?

It's 4.5:1 this year.

Also, why do people keep saying USA+Japan+Europe = Global sales? They are not



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Carl2291 said:
ExplodingBlock said:

Also overtracked XB1 by .01m?


I just need to ask this.

Are we seriously at the point where we will be pointing out worldwide "overtracking" of 10,000 units?

Ain't life grand?



Zanten said:
Dark_Feanor said:
So, basicaly there are still XBox Ones in the market that were shipped before the end of March??

That is incredible!

Microsoft shipped at least 5.8mi by the end of June and 7 week later it barely reachs the Q1 shippments (20 weeks)?


Wouldn't those shipments (as it's the end of June) include shipments of the Kinectless SKU? Depending on how many Kinect-bundled units still didn't sell by the launch of the Kinectless Xbox One, it would probably lead to some bloated shipment numbers, as even stores that didn't sell all, or most of their 499$ Xbox Ones will have still stocked up on the cheaper 399$ version. The usual 'Store only restocks on shipment when they've sold through existing inventory' doesn't apply as much there.

If that was the case, those retailers would be burning down the stock with massive promotions. Just like what we saw in late March with the Titanfall bundle.

May be this is happening in Europe with no effect even enouth to push above the moribund WiiU.



Looking at where ioi made adjustments for the XBO, he got rid of a lot from US, but too much in certain months, and barely touched 2013.

In 2013, November is still over tracked by 60k [NPD=909K, VGC=969K], and December did get a decrease, it is still 51k over [NPD=908K, VGC=959K]

January is only 7k over here [NPD=143K, VGC=150K], but then February is missing almost 90k from what it's supposed to be! [NPD=258K, VGC=169K!] March isn't even over 300k here. [NPD=311K, VGC=278K].

April is similar to January, only 7k over [NPD=115K, VGC=122K]. May is only 13k over [NPD=77K, VGC=90K], and June is practically dead on [NPD=197K, VGC=197K]. July is also somewhat close [NPD=131K, VGC=137K]

My problem is here is 2 things. 1. They took so much from months that the Xbox One did really good in (February and March), and barely touched November and December, when those are over tracked by over 111k! [NPD(NOV+DEC)=1817K, VGC=1928K] and number 2. Even with these adjustments, Xbox One is still over tracked by about 23k!



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

Ninsect said:
Since when is Europe just 3:1?

It's 4.5:1 this year.

Also, why do people keep saying USA+Japan+Europe = Global sales? They are not


Well, that is what VGChartz is saying after the adjustment.

But sales wise I would say that only USA+Japan = WW because other than shippments they are the only places where we find historical and consistent data. Some times we have word from UK and Germany. 

I just think its odd that in Europe the PS4 is selling 2 or 3 times as much as in the USA.

Are those markets driffted apart that much in the late generation?

Why can the XOne put a fight in the USA but not in the Europe?



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mjk45 said:
Ninsect said:

How is it wishful thinking? It's based on common sense and some history.

You're right about WiiU being Nintendo's business but it is BAD business. That analogy doesn't work because I don't mean Nintendo is going to kill off WiiU and do nothing, what I am saying is that they will release a successor soon afterwards, hoping it will be more successful than its predecessor.

I think they will give it 2015 /16 to see how it goes when software is more settled in terms of both big hitters and hopefully more regular supply .

they run the risk if they introduce another console to early of alianating part of their base , there will be  some thoughts along the line of why should I invest in a new console with the spectre of another  close on the horizon.

They have a very strong history of completely dropping support of their dying consoles. I don't think there's any more damage they can do.



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drake_tolu said:

This year:

PS4: 5,600,000

XBOX ONE: 2,000,000

Wii U: 1,700,000


It's....it's beautiful



More and more is starts to look less like Wii dominance and more like PS2 dominance. Not quite there yet.



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outlawauron said:
mjk45 said:
Ninsect said:

How is it wishful thinking? It's based on common sense and some history.

You're right about WiiU being Nintendo's business but it is BAD business. That analogy doesn't work because I don't mean Nintendo is going to kill off WiiU and do nothing, what I am saying is that they will release a successor soon afterwards, hoping it will be more successful than its predecessor.

I think they will give it 2015 /16 to see how it goes when software is more settled in terms of both big hitters and hopefully more regular supply .

they run the risk if they introduce another console to early of alianating part of their base , there will be  some thoughts along the line of why should I invest in a new console with the spectre of another  close on the horizon.

They have a very strong history of completely dropping support of their dying consoles. I don't think there's any more damage they can do.

True ,  though this one is compounded by the  the fact that it would be very  early in the life of  the competing consoles .



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This year:

PS4: 5,600,000

XBOX ONE: 2,000,000

Wii U: 1,700,000


That's the number that shows substainability.  Looks like PS4 is 2.8:1 post launch window.  This holiday will be the most telling though.