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OfficerRaichu15 on 24 August 2014

well since I really like uncharted and kingdom hearts Ill probly get a ps4 as my primary and wii u(i have now) as my secondary



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(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

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Kaizar on 24 August 2014

This sound like a conformist way of life. People with such conformist views should stop asking their fellow consumers to conform their way of life, and just get over the fact that the easy majority of early adapters would rather have a Wii U then Xbox ONE according to VGChartz home page "each & every" week.

More then the majority of people would rather pay an extra 50% in ticket price to see a live-action 3D movie in 3D. Just becuase a few people might not be one of them doesn't give them the right to try to make everyone conform to their own personal lifestyle. That's just pure selfishness & forceful of anyone to try to do to their fellow man.

 

Face facts, people buy what interest them the most, and theres nothing any conformist can do about, no matter how loud a conformist tries to argue people out of their own personal lifestyle.

 

If your fellow consumer would rather have a Wii U as a secondary console, then the other of the other 2, then let them. Stop forcing conformity on other gamers, to conform to you. Let people buy what they want to buy for themself without going "Tea Party" on them.



DerNebel on 24 August 2014
Michael-5 said:
DerNebel said:

Who says that Wild will be all that? You say it will be an Arcade game, but have you anything to back that up? Wild, Rime and Alienation all have reasons to be counted, if you count something like Project Giant Robot. Nintendo giving it the budget of a retail game means absolutely nothing, they gave that to Game & Wario as well.

If a game is a important enough to its publisher to get a special segment outside of an indie reel in a big public event like Gamescom or E3, then it's well worth putting on this list and its completely unfair to for example exclude a game that is made by the creator of Rayman and is supposed to have a world size equal to that of Europe but then include another game that looks essentially like Rock em' sock em' robots digital version (for now) just because it has a retail release.

I said we shouldn't count Smash Bros if we don't count Tearaway because it has a 3DS version releasing ahead of it, that will more than likely also share at least 50% of the features with the Wii U version.

But I'd say we better stop now and agree to disagree since I don't see us getting to a point where we agree what should be counted and what shouldn't.

So you're saying if they made a trailer for the game and showed it off, it should be counted? Well they showed a dozen Arcade games at E3 for Nintendo, guess we should count Pushmo World, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, A Hat in Time, Art Acadamy, Tengami......the list goes on.

I'm not saying ignore Rime, Wild, Pushmo World, etc, I'm saying count them separately.

Oh I get you're point about Smash Bros., fair point, but since I said lets count Tearaway, then lets count Smash.

Agree to disagree? So I prove to you that Nintendo will get more exclusives (both retail and arcade) then PS4, and you want to agree to disagree? Are you going to ignore Nintendo's arcade games now because only PSN games count? Nintendo has more exclusives to offer, both Retail and Arcade, and if Wii if anything to judge the quality by, then we can expect more highly rated exclusives for WiiU then any other 8th gen console. This makes WiiU the best 2nd console to own after a PS4/XB1.

Admit to being wrong, simple as that.

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P.S. I find it funny how you only argued for PS4 being a better second console then WiiU. Do you admit XB1 is the worst 2nd console to own? PS4/WiiU make the best package IMO, + a 3DS.

Yes, those should be counted, in my opinion as soon as the game has warranted a seperate announcement (outside of a simple blog post) in the eyes of the publisher I'll count it. And no I'm not going to admit that I'm wrong, cause I'm not.

Why the hell count them seperately if people on PS4 at least are just as excited for those games as they are for the big retail games? Go to the PS4 exclusive elimination game thread and see, 2 of the 5 remaining games in the game are Rime and Wild. And No Man's Sky is probably more hyped than half of the retail games coming out next year, just to give an example.

I mean the fact that after all this arguing you still haven't noticed that 2 of the games in your original PS4 list of 12 are actually digital only titles makes me think that you are not really qualified to have this discussion about who has more games announced here.

And even if the Wii U has more games announced at the moment, so what? That thing has been out for a year longer and Sony (and btw I only talk about Sony, cause I'm not an Xbox fan and can't be bothered with finding out all that stuff about the X1) has shown that they are pushing announcements closer to release and that they are spacing them out over several conferences, other than Nintendo Sony has for example 2 more conferences planned in the next 4 weeks and at least one of those should give us a couple more new titles.

I've said this before in other threads but after TGS is over I'll make a thread with all announcements of the big 3 over the whole summer, then we can talk about who has more exclusives coming.



DerNebel on 24 August 2014
Kaizar said:

This sound like a conformist way of life. People with such conformist views should stop asking their fellow consumers to conform their way of life, and just get over the fact that the easy majority of early adapters would rather have a Wii U then Xbox ONE according to VGChartz home page "each & every" week.

More then the majority of people would rather pay an extra 50% in ticket price to see a live-action 3D movie in 3D. Just becuase a few people might not be one of them doesn't give them the right to try to make everyone conform to their own personal lifestyle. That's just pure selfishness & forceful of anyone to try to do to their fellow man.

 

Face facts, people buy what interest them the most, and theres nothing any conformist can do about, no matter how loud a conformist tries to argue people out of their own personal lifestyle.

 

If your fellow consumer would rather have a Wii U as a secondary console, then the other of the other 2, then let them. Stop forcing conformity on other gamers, to conform to you. Let people buy what they want to buy for themself without going "Tea Party" on them.

...uh what?

All I read was conformists about a dozen times.



OfficerRaichu15 on 24 August 2014

well there is a new game I think for wii u at TGS(its by namco) its like this rythem game that has good legs in japan apparently :P

EDIT: its  taiko no tasujin



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

Around the Network
Kaizar on 24 August 2014
Michael-5 said:
DerNebel said:
Michael-5 said:

Why count Wild? Because of the graphics? Length? Cost? Hype? Where is the cut-off with Indie games? Do we count stuff like Resogun and Shovel Knight, which are $20 games on par with a $70 retail game? Don't hate Project Guard, Pikmin at first looked stupid to me, and I ended up loving it. It still has the budget to release Retail, so obviously Nintendo must have a reason to publish it.

All those images showed was that Wild, a PS4 Arcade game, has better graphics.....no reason to count it...

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You can't say this doesn't count because Nintendo doesn't release any arcade/indie games because that's not true. Here are 13 WiiU indie exclusives

8-Bit Boy
A Hat in Time (PC/WiiU)
Anima
Another Castle
Art Acadamy
Mario vs. Donkey Kong
Project Y2K
Pushmo World
Shantae and the Pirates Curse
Star Beast: The Stellar Wind
Swords & Soldiers II
Tengami (WiiU/PC)
Two Brothers (WiiU/PC)

Go to Wikipedia and and you'll see 116 more indie/arcade exclusives which have been announced and yet to release. I don't want to include indies/arcade only games because they aren't high budget enough to warrant a retail release, and while there might be some gems out there, there is a lot of crap, on all platforms. Not going to go through 129 Arcade games on WiiU to find out which ones are worthwhile (or even localizing/not cancelled)

Smash Bros is a different game the previous gens, there Tearaway is not, but even if you count Tearaway (and GT7, didn't know they made a statement saying it's in development), you still have 14 Retail PS4 games & 11 Retail XB1 games compared to 18 Retail WiiU games. Start counting indies, and WiiU really starts to dominate.

No matter how you like to slice it, number of retail games, number of games altogether, what to expect based off previous gens, etc. WiiU has the most exclusive content, in both quality and quantity. WiiU is still the best 2nd console, but if you don't like the exclusives, it's not terrible to get a PS4/XB1 as an alternative.

Who says that Wild will be all that? You say it will be an Arcade game, but have you anything to back that up? Wild, Rime and Alienation all have reasons to be counted, if you count something like Project Giant Robot. Nintendo giving it the budget of a retail game means absolutely nothing, they gave that to Game & Wario as well.

If a game is a important enough to its publisher to get a special segment outside of an indie reel in a big public event like Gamescom or E3, then it's well worth putting on this list and its completely unfair to for example exclude a game that is made by the creator of Rayman and is supposed to have a world size equal to that of Europe but then include another game that looks essentially like Rock em' sock em' robots digital version (for now) just because it has a retail release.

I said we shouldn't count Smash Bros if we don't count Tearaway because it has a 3DS version releasing ahead of it, that will more than likely also share at least 50% of the features with the Wii U version.

But I'd say we better stop now and agree to disagree since I don't see us getting to a point where we agree what should be counted and what shouldn't.

So you're saying if they made a trailer for the game and showed it off, it should be counted? Well they showed a dozen Arcade games at E3 for Nintendo, guess we should count Pushmo World, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, A Hat in Time, Art Acadamy, Tengami......the list goes on.

I'm not saying ignore Rime, Wild, Pushmo World, etc, I'm saying count them separately.

Oh I get you're point about Smash Bros., fair point, but since I said lets count Tearaway, then lets count Smash.

Agree to disagree? So I prove to you that Nintendo will get more exclusives (both retail and arcade) then PS4, and you want to agree to disagree? Are you going to ignore Nintendo's arcade games now because only PSN games count? Nintendo has more exclusives to offer, both Retail and Arcade, and if Wii if anything to judge the quality by, then we can expect more highly rated exclusives for WiiU then any other 8th gen console. This makes WiiU the best 2nd console to own after a PS4/XB1.

Admit to being wrong, simple as that.

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P.S. I find it funny how you only argued for PS4 being a better second console then WiiU. Do you admit XB1 is the worst 2nd console to own? PS4/WiiU make the best package IMO, + a 3DS.


This guy only see's himself in everything. In other words, he literally never admits being wrong about anything to no one, including himself.



DerNebel on 24 August 2014
Kaizar said:


This guy only see's himself in everything. In other words, he literally never admits being wrong about anything to no one, including himself.

You got something to say to "this guy", why don't you say it to him directly buddy?



OfficerRaichu15 on 24 August 2014

man you people are going to get a cone attack



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

ninjaman003 on 24 August 2014
DerNebel said:
Kaizar said:


This guy only see's himself in everything. In other words, he literally never admits being wrong about anything to no one, including himself.

You got something to say to "this guy", why don't you say it to him directly buddy?

I get this strange feeling he knew you were going to see it anyway. I don't think it'd be that much different if he replied straight to your post. It would look more random and insensitive actually.



sweetoothj on 24 August 2014

I actually meet people in real life who bought an xbox 360 or ps3 as their second console choice just because certain friends/ family members have that consoles. That was the main reason why I bought a 360 as my second choice because certain friends at school and my Cousins/Uncle played on XBL. And I bet people here who own a ps4 have some friends or family members who have a xbox one and want to play with them and vice versa.