"The Wii U is a better secondary console than the X1/PS4"

[DerNebel]

Michael-5 said:

DerNebel said:

Who says that Wild will be all that? You say it will be an Arcade game, but have you anything to back that up? Wild, Rime and Alienation all have reasons to be counted, if you count something like Project Giant Robot. Nintendo giving it the budget of a retail game means absolutely nothing, they gave that to Game & Wario as well.

If a game is a important enough to its publisher to get a special segment outside of an indie reel in a big public event like Gamescom or E3, then it's well worth putting on this list and its completely unfair to for example exclude a game that is made by the creator of Rayman and is supposed to have a world size equal to that of Europe but then include another game that looks essentially like Rock em' sock em' robots digital version (for now) just because it has a retail release.

I said we shouldn't count Smash Bros if we don't count Tearaway because it has a 3DS version releasing ahead of it, that will more than likely also share at least 50% of the features with the Wii U version.

But I'd say we better stop now and agree to disagree since I don't see us getting to a point where we agree what should be counted and what shouldn't.

So you're saying if they made a trailer for the game and showed it off, it should be counted? Well they showed a dozen Arcade games at E3 for Nintendo, guess we should count Pushmo World, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, A Hat in Time, Art Acadamy, Tengami......the list goes on.

I'm not saying ignore Rime, Wild, Pushmo World, etc, I'm saying count them separately.

Oh I get you're point about Smash Bros., fair point, but since I said lets count Tearaway, then lets count Smash.

Agree to disagree? So I prove to you that Nintendo will get more exclusives (both retail and arcade) then PS4, and you want to agree to disagree? Are you going to ignore Nintendo's arcade games now because only PSN games count? Nintendo has more exclusives to offer, both Retail and Arcade, and if Wii if anything to judge the quality by, then we can expect more highly rated exclusives for WiiU then any other 8th gen console. This makes WiiU the best 2nd console to own after a PS4/XB1.

Admit to being wrong, simple as that.

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P.S. I find it funny how you only argued for PS4 being a better second console then WiiU. Do you admit XB1 is the worst 2nd console to own? PS4/WiiU make the best package IMO, + a 3DS.

Yes, those should be counted, in my opinion as soon as the game has warranted a seperate announcement (outside of a simple blog post) in the eyes of the publisher I'll count it. And no I'm not going to admit that I'm wrong, cause I'm not.

Why the hell count them seperately if people on PS4 at least are just as excited for those games as they are for the big retail games? Go to the PS4 exclusive elimination game thread and see, 2 of the 5 remaining games in the game are Rime and Wild. And No Man's Sky is probably more hyped than half of the retail games coming out next year, just to give an example.

I mean the fact that after all this arguing you still haven't noticed that 2 of the games in your original PS4 list of 12 are actually digital only titles makes me think that you are not really qualified to have this discussion about who has more games announced here.

And even if the Wii U has more games announced at the moment, so what? That thing has been out for a year longer and Sony (and btw I only talk about Sony, cause I'm not an Xbox fan and can't be bothered with finding out all that stuff about the X1) has shown that they are pushing announcements closer to release and that they are spacing them out over several conferences, other than Nintendo Sony has for example 2 more conferences planned in the next 4 weeks and at least one of those should give us a couple more new titles.

I've said this before in other threads but after TGS is over I'll make a thread with all announcements of the big 3 over the whole summer, then we can talk about who has more exclusives coming.