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Forums - Sales Discussion - November Update!!!! Under 3m - Predict: Xbox One will sell more in the US than WiiU will Worldwide

Seece on 21 August 2014
BeElite said:
Seece said:

1.2 in 7, regardless it's the summer. The next 5 months are packed with games and bundles. And we have actually seen first hand that Xbox One can sell there, both during launch and Titanfall.


Yahh and all thsoe games will be on PS4, likely running better or at high rez.  

TF with the 450 unofficial bundles ? you think major retailer will be ridding of stock like they did then every game.

Doesn't matter, multiplats will still sell XB1's, you're kidding yourself if you think not.

Don't even understand your last sentance.



 

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Puppyroach on 21 August 2014

I would be very surprised if it didn't happen actually.



Fusioncode on 21 August 2014
BeElite said:
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:

Halo gears vs Smash Zelda.

I dont see any major MS advantage. 

Halo and Gears will be bigger system sellers than Smash Bros and Zelda. Look at how many units Mario Kart moved, (a series much bigger than Smash and Zelda) it wasn't much. It did next to nothing in Japan, and only raised US numbers from 48k to 85k in launch month. 

Im sure they give bigger bumps, just wont matter enough over all. 

 Alaso you hope they are but its far from a sure thing, The fps market is not exactly lacking competition Halo is not what it was and Gears god only knows given its creaters sold it of and now an unproven dev is making the next one.  Only thing sure is MS will whore then out to epic skaces.  But quality wise id actually have to go with SmashZelda.

Even if Halo and Gears face a decline they're still going to move systems. Those franchises have a lot of fans. Again, aside from Smash and Zelda what's going to push the WiiU above XBO? It won't be multiplats that's for sure. 



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zorg1000 on 21 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:
Seece said:

Conclusion

WiiU's lack of third party support, casual interest, low lifespan and history so far suggests to me it won't sell above 20m, and if it does not by much. Despite MK's release it still trails the Gamecube (21m~). XB1's ability to compete in the US (thus far) suggests nothing less than 20m there when all is said and done. Come the end of this year it'll be approaching 6m~ lifetime there, or more.

If XB1 manages to stay very competitve with PS4 in the states and even manage to overtake/become #1 this will happen sooner rather than later. But if PS4 continues to see the sales vs XB1 that it's getting, this will be a long drawn out prediction that won't be fullfilled for many years, when WiiU starts to slug and XB1 continues on in the US.

Nope, for one id hardly call X1 competitive in US given all MS has done to spur sales while sonys been costing all this time.  X1 is not coming back wining back share or even ever making it a fight, other then the big launch its been rather a fail in its battle vs PS4.  That's never changing.  Wiiu for all its failures and weaknesses, has one thing X1 lacks.  Exclusives, thats one major front x1 cant match it nor will it.  X1 is no where strong enough to out sale wiius ww lt in US.

To much rides on the no chance in hell possability that x1 some how manages to do better vs PS4 in the future.  

XBO has bigger exclusives coming than WiiU. All Nintendo has left is Smash Bros and Zelda, and Smash Bros is on 3DS anyways. 

Saying all Nintendo has left is Smash and Zelda is a bit of an exaggeration. Just from the games we currently know about there is Hyrule Warriors, Fatal Frame, Bayonetta, Captian Toad, Smash Bros, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Devil's Third, Star Fox, Mario Party, Zelda and the Amiibo toyline. Many of them arent likely to be huge system sellers but people buy a console for its library, not just 1-2 games.



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S.Peelman on 21 August 2014

Meanwhile, WiiU is still selling more than the XBox even though months have already gone by where the XBox according to some "will start outselling WiiU 'next week' (whenever that is)".

As long as this isn't happening, XBox doesn't have a single thing 'on lock' whatsoever, and definitely isn't on track to outselling WiiU's WW in the USA alone. I don't see what sales data of other consoles from ages gone by have to do with anything, or the 'launch-aligned' excuse that was abundently used in the previous gen already. The only thing really that's 'for sure' right now and the only thing that absolutely guarantees to make a dent is Halo (5). The rest, all the rest, is guesswork and based on hopes and dreams, since there also exists such a thing as the PS4 which does a pretty good job at continuing to steal the XBoxes' thunder.

Obviously, that goes both ways. It isn't like WiiU is in the clear either, so please don't tell me I'm somehow saying it's 'impossible', because at least I agree on that; it is 'possible' this will happen, yes.



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PigPen on 21 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:

Halo gears vs Smash Zelda.

I dont see any major MS advantage. 

Halo and Gears will be bigger system sellers than Smash Bros and Zelda. Look at how many units Mario Kart moved, (a series much bigger than Smash and Zelda) it wasn't much. It did next to nothing in Japan, and only raised US numbers from 48k to 85k in launch month. 

Im sure they give bigger bumps, just wont matter enough over all. 

 Alaso you hope they are but its far from a sure thing, The fps market is not exactly lacking competition Halo is not what it was and Gears god only knows given its creaters sold it of and now an unproven dev is making the next one.  Only thing sure is MS will whore then out to epic skaces.  But quality wise id actually have to go with SmashZelda.

Even if Halo and Gears face a decline they're still going to move systems. Those franchises have a lot of fans. Again, aside from Smash and Zelda what's going to push the WiiU above XBO? It won't be multiplats that's for sure. 


Devil's Third, Bayonetta 2, Fatal Frame, Metriod, SMT x Fire Emblem, Duck Hunt and whatever exclusives Nintendo picks up along the way.  I going to urk Nintendo till we get a Duck Hunt U.



Fusioncode on 21 August 2014
zorg1000 said:
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:

Nope, for one id hardly call X1 competitive in US given all MS has done to spur sales while sonys been costing all this time.  X1 is not coming back wining back share or even ever making it a fight, other then the big launch its been rather a fail in its battle vs PS4.  That's never changing.  Wiiu for all its failures and weaknesses, has one thing X1 lacks.  Exclusives, thats one major front x1 cant match it nor will it.  X1 is no where strong enough to out sale wiius ww lt in US.

To much rides on the no chance in hell possability that x1 some how manages to do better vs PS4 in the future.  

XBO has bigger exclusives coming than WiiU. All Nintendo has left is Smash Bros and Zelda, and Smash Bros is on 3DS anyways. 

Saying all Nintendo has left is Smash and Zelda is a bit of an exaggeration. Just from the games we currently know about there is Hyrule Warriors, Fatal Frame, Bayonetta, Captian Toad, Smash Bros, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Devil's Third, Star Fox, Mario Party, Zelda and the Amiibo toyline. Many of them arent likely to be huge system sellers but people buy a console for its library, not just 1-2 games.

Smaller titles aren't going to move consoles for Nintendo. This should be abundantly clear by now after Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Wii Fit, Lego City, Wii Sports Club, and Monster Hunter all failed to be system sellers. If you actually think games like Fatal Frame and Captain Toad are going to make any sort of dent then I'm not sure what else I can say. 



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Saeko on 21 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
zorg1000 said:
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:

Nope, for one id hardly call X1 competitive in US given all MS has done to spur sales while sonys been costing all this time.  X1 is not coming back wining back share or even ever making it a fight, other then the big launch its been rather a fail in its battle vs PS4.  That's never changing.  Wiiu for all its failures and weaknesses, has one thing X1 lacks.  Exclusives, thats one major front x1 cant match it nor will it.  X1 is no where strong enough to out sale wiius ww lt in US.

To much rides on the no chance in hell possability that x1 some how manages to do better vs PS4 in the future.  

XBO has bigger exclusives coming than WiiU. All Nintendo has left is Smash Bros and Zelda, and Smash Bros is on 3DS anyways. 

Saying all Nintendo has left is Smash and Zelda is a bit of an exaggeration. Just from the games we currently know about there is Hyrule Warriors, Fatal Frame, Bayonetta, Captian Toad, Smash Bros, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Devil's Third, Star Fox, Mario Party, Zelda and the Amiibo toyline. Many of them arent likely to be huge system sellers but people buy a console for its library, not just 1-2 games.

Smaller titles aren't going to move consoles for Nintendo. This should be abundantly clear by now after Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Wii Fit, Lego City, Wii Sports Club, and Monster Hunter all failed to be system sellers. If you actually think games like Fatal Frame and Captain Toad are going to make any sort of dent then I'm not sure what else I can say. 

sorry but i will buy wii u when X and fire emblem x SMT comming out, and i know 2 friend who will do too, we not wait at all zelda or smash... but all 3 won't buy xbox one for sure.

Wii u missing good rpg atm for us, and there this comming, but nothing atm in xbox one when we have ps4 already. and multi player fable don't count, we love solo rpg ^^



Fusioncode on 21 August 2014
Saeko said:
Fusioncode said:
zorg1000 said:

Saying all Nintendo has left is Smash and Zelda is a bit of an exaggeration. Just from the games we currently know about there is Hyrule Warriors, Fatal Frame, Bayonetta, Captian Toad, Smash Bros, Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Devil's Third, Star Fox, Mario Party, Zelda and the Amiibo toyline. Many of them arent likely to be huge system sellers but people buy a console for its library, not just 1-2 games.

Smaller titles aren't going to move consoles for Nintendo. This should be abundantly clear by now after Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Wii Fit, Lego City, Wii Sports Club, and Monster Hunter all failed to be system sellers. If you actually think games like Fatal Frame and Captain Toad are going to make any sort of dent then I'm not sure what else I can say. 

sorry but i will buy wii u when X and fire emblem x SMT comming out, and i know 2 friend who will do too, we not wait at all zelda or smash... but all 3 won't buy xbox one for sure.

Wii u missing good rpg atm for us, and there this comming, but nothing atm in xbox one when we have ps4 already. and multi player fable don't count, we love solo rpg ^^

Okay?



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BeElite on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
BeElite said:
Seece said:

1.2 in 7, regardless it's the summer. The next 5 months are packed with games and bundles. And we have actually seen first hand that Xbox One can sell there, both during launch and Titanfall.


Yahh and all thsoe games will be on PS4, likely running better or at high rez.  

TF with the 450 unofficial bundles ? you think major retailer will be ridding of stock like they did then every game.

Doesn't matter, multiplats will still sell XB1's, you're kidding yourself if you think not.

Don't even understand your last sentance.

Given its low sales im mostly doubting that.  Nothing overly sales X1, its alwasy a struggle.  

Yes you do you just dont wat to admit much of TF sales was retaliers dumping stock through some crazy bundles.