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BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:
BeElite said:


by the end of this gen i will have a $50 plus servvice.

you will have Gold 60 Ea 30, ubi 30, t2 30, SE 30, Acti 30 and so on.  Enjoy hundredths of $ a year in extra services.

Ill side with sonys view, their mentality is best pro me pro PS owner.  MS is pro diping in your pocket a dozen times, but you are ok with it as long as they make $.  Or are we pretanding ms is not making $ from this.  

If I'm subscribing to all those services, they all must be doing a great job appealing to me. Which is... unrealistic. I would only subscribe to the services that appeal to me.

Also, if I'm paying for all those services. That means I'm getting access to significantly more content than a person only subscribing to PS+. Did you consider that?

I'm okay with MS allowing options. Even some Sony fans want EA Access, but they can't have it because Sony is the arbiter of good values. Yet PS Now is somehow a great value. $15 a month to play FFXIV is also a great value. Go figure!

lol Now is in beta, and its a rental.  What is so hard for you to understand about that ???



ps+ is also a rental, cause you can´t play your games anymore once you stop subscribing ea access is also a rental, the difference from both to psnow is, that you don´t stream your games, which is alot better for the gameplay

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The Fury said:
Puppyroach said:
Let me get this straight: so with PS Now you pay a subscription for individual games that they make available to stream from Sonys servers? And with EAA you pay a subscription fee for a number of games that they make available through MS servers? So the difference is mainly the streaming part? :)

EA Access is a subscription service which allows you to download and play 4 games, as well as limited 'demos' of games and discounts off EA games. Their servers probably just hold the download file for the games and the login process. This service is only available on Xbox One

PS Now is is a streaming service where by you essentially rent the ability to play a game (just 1 if you want) from a remote location, the game is not downloaded and you play the game from Sony's servers. This service is currently to be released on PS4, PS3, Vita and Sony TVs. You just need a controller.

EDIT: I can't believe I'm actually having to explain this to people.

Since you download the games from MS Store, I am pretty sure that MS is the one providing the server.

Would you say that a rental service is sometyhing that you pay for to get access to a product for a limited period of time?



Brotherstotheend said:


ps+ is also a rental, cause you can´t play your games anymore once you stop subscribing ea access is also a rental, the difference from both to psnow is, that you don´t stream your games, which is alot better for the gameplay


Plus is a service for PS4, that as a bonus gives you free games.

Now is a rental service nothing more for just about any platform capable of streaming any where theres adequate net access, no difference at all.



The Fury said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Yet PS Now is somehow a great value. $15 a month to play FFXIV is also a great value. Go figure!

The rest of your points were good and well made. But stop comparing this to PS Now, it's not the same. 

It was a response to, "Ill side with sonys view, their mentality is best pro me pro PS owner."

PS Now doesn't represent that so I used it as an example.



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DerNebel said:

I'm baffled at all the naivety some people are showing here "Oh, it's just an option", "Don't like it don't use it", what have these publishers done to deserve this level of trust?

We are talking about a company that is right now refusing to let reviewers review their newest game prior to launch and another company that purposely hid graphics settings in the PC version of their last big game and that is not content with releasing a cross gen game, no they release two entries of AC this year one for last and one for current gen, so people ideally, for Ubisoft, buy both versions.

What have these companies done, that I should trust them and just say "welp whatever, they aren't locking away content here, so it's purely optional"? They aren't locking away content YET (well EA is locking away demos already, but I mean real ingame content), who's to say that they won't start doing it soon to get subsciptions up?

I personally have no fucking interest in a game industry where everytime I want to get a new game, I have to get a subscription too, just to have access to all its content. Seriously, fuck that.


The plot is a certain company would like nothing more than any thing to see the game console industry go away.

It was never about trying to build it into as a core part of its company, its about trying to make the gamers return to the gate toll for all games to be design, distribution, and use one Operating system, one Eco system one platform to be the only platform for gamers to have the most upto date games made for the most widely used OS, but the ironic thing is now there is more than just one Eco system OS.

 

That main point is new games  are being made for that OS an being included not excluded with no driver support so as to be, if you want the most upto date OS drivers for your computer please step up to the Window.  

Now its just as viable with market share and mind share enough that the idea of killing this market to reduce competition may end of more of a problem because now Steam OS is being positioned into the market to be the main OS for new games to be made for another OS and not just only a certain companies OS and this OS is open Source for with Valve being the head toll gate position.

 

and that one company.

 

May now have to be looking through a window looking in, instead of looking out.



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The Fury said:
Puppyroach said:
People here do understand that EAA, PS Now, PS+ and XBLG are all rental services, right?

I'd hope so and people are arguing over who they want to give their money to for not owning a damn thing. Rediculous.

Completely agree. I personally thought MS´s original version was better, where I acually was given games for my subscription fee, games I could keep even if I no longer subscribed.

I do realize that the model Sony chose would be the one every company would jump on though. They presented a model where we as subscribers are never owners of the products, making it a better sell for Sony towards 3rd parties. Rental services are never good for the consumer longterm since you pay more for less, but you do get to play games you otherwise would´nt have played.

Now that we have these services, I´d rather see good competition instead of a few controlling the market. That is why I welcome EAA aswell as other services.



BeElite said:
walsufnir said:
BeElite said:

lol Now is in beta, and its a rental.  What is so hard for you to understand about that ???


The most expensive beta I know of.

and ?


Nothing and. But having such prices in a beta is not going to convince people for a service. Of course Sony paid a *lot* of money for Gaikai and probably had to pay a lot for new data-centers and peering connections but the prices are way too high. Generally a Beta should always be free, in my opinion.



BeElite said:

Plus is a service for PS4, that as a bonus gives you free games.

Now is a rental service nothing more for just about any platform capable of streaming any where theres adequate net access, no difference at all.

Is a game free, if it is taken away from your posession the moment you don´t subscribe?



Brotherstotheend said:
BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:
BeElite said:


by the end of this gen i will have a $50 plus servvice.

you will have Gold 60 Ea 30, ubi 30, t2 30, SE 30, Acti 30 and so on.  Enjoy hundredths of $ a year in extra services.

Ill side with sonys view, their mentality is best pro me pro PS owner.  MS is pro diping in your pocket a dozen times, but you are ok with it as long as they make $.  Or are we pretanding ms is not making $ from this.  

If I'm subscribing to all those services, they all must be doing a great job appealing to me. Which is... unrealistic. I would only subscribe to the services that appeal to me.

Also, if I'm paying for all those services. That means I'm getting access to significantly more content than a person only subscribing to PS+. Did you consider that?

I'm okay with MS allowing options. Even some Sony fans want EA Access, but they can't have it because Sony is the arbiter of good values. Yet PS Now is somehow a great value. $15 a month to play FFXIV is also a great value. Go figure!

lol Now is in beta, and its a rental.  What is so hard for you to understand about that ???



ps+ is also a rental, cause you can´t play your games anymore once you stop subscribing ea access is also a rental, the difference from both to psnow is, that you don´t stream your games, which is alot better for the gameplay


Thats not true at all, if I can purchase the game through plus I get a discount on games if I can out right buy the game if there is a yellow discount price, being a playstation+ member also allows games to be purchased or free to keep even if my playstation + account is not payed upkeep



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:


Not even close. According to Puggsly if you want to enjoy a product but don't want to contribute to the company that produced it, you're a parasite.

Go look back at this thread and you'll see what I am referring to.

I'm surprised this guy doesn't get banned... more often.

The hell with anyone that ever buys a used car, those heartless parasite bastards.  Ever worse those poor people in the world that get water out of a river or lake, how dare they not pay a giant corperation for that privalage,those  sobs i tells you what.

LOL im more surprised you cant comprehand what a rental is.

Do you buy used cars with the intent of punishing the manufacturer? No.

Did you suggest buying used games to punish the publisher? Yes. "Buy their games used not new, only way they understand is if you hit their wallet. "

You encourage people to continue enjoying EA's games, but get them used to avoid contributing anything. That's a parasite.



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