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eva01beserk said:
Gnac said:

Is this shit in the dictionary yet

Dreamcast noun 1998 home console system by SEGA.

Dreamcast adj 1 admirable attempt by SEGA to regain fan support 2 dramatic attempt by frankly silly people to draw comparisons to something tenuously related by use of risible and easily rebuffed metrics 3 ironic my penis

That was funny :p

But I dont mean it will sell on the low numbers of the dreamcast of under 10m. Thats completly imposible. What I meant is that I think that this console will be it for MS. No more xbox after this.

I'm thinking the same. the xbox division hans't profited yet and many billions were invested. MS had a reason to stay because of the 360 success and growth over xbox. but now, with xone failing, I think it will be hard for MS to keep investing on the brand.



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You think xbox one is gonna sell 7 million in 12 months when its barely hitting 60k a week now lol



toastboy44562 said:
eva01beserk said:

That was funny :p

But I dont mean it will sell on the low numbers of the dreamcast of under 10m. Thats completly imposible. What I meant is that I think that this console will be it for MS. No more xbox after this.


Lol no. Xbox One will do at least 40 million and makes tens of billions of profits just like the 360. Microsoft isnt going to give up on the living room.

the 360 made bellow 0 profits.



In the end of 2016, maybe.



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Shadow1980 said:

The XBO has been selling at sub-GameCube numbers for the last three months in the U.S. even after Kinect was unbundled, and it's been selling at well below Wii U levels in continental Europe (and that's only counting markets it's actually in like France and Germany). At this rate, it'll be lucky to sell much more than 5 million this year, putting its LTD sales at about 8 million. It will probably sell at most around 7-8 million next year, and that's assuming it gets a price drop to $300. That's a 40-60% increase YoY, which is solid. So by the end of next year it'll probably be sitting at around 16 million tops. If it's sitting at 8 million at the end of this year, it would need to sell 16 million units next year alone to be at 24 million. That's an over three-fold increase YoY, which is utterly unprecedented for global sales. That's not just over optimistic. It's preposterous. There have been a couple of huge comebacks before, but they've been special circumstances. Halo 5 and a price cut are not going to give the XBO a record-breaking rebound. It's not happening. No chance in hell. It's going to retain price parity with the PS4 (any price cut MS institutes will be immediately matched by Sony), and it's still going to share 90+% of the same games as the PS4.

That being said, 13 million is a reasonable projection for the Wii U end-2015 LTD sales, so at best I think the XBO will be ahead of it by only about 3 million units by the end of next year. I think it will eventually pull ahead of the Wii U by 10 million units, but likely no earlier than 2017.

your post was going well untill that part.



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toastboy44562 said:

Xbox One should be at 12 million by the end of 2014

Wii U will be at 10 million by the end of 2014

 

Xbox One should be at 24 million by the end of 2015

Wii U will be around 13-14 million by the end of 2015

 

Xbox One will have a lead of ten million by the end of 2015!

That's one optimistic prediction you got there. Let me fix that with more conservative numbers.

XB1:

Let's take the 7 million you have and chop it down to 4 million. I expect that the XB1 is at 5.5 million now. So, 5.5 million with multiplats and some exclusives including Halo: MCC. Let me tell you why I think this is a conservative estimate: Halo MCC will dilute the impact of Halo 5 next year. That makes some 9.5 million XB1s. Quite a number we have there.

Now, let's cut down XB1 to just 8 million next year. Why, you ask? By what you're thinking, this seems like a conservative estimate. But, hear me out. The effect of Halo 5 will have been diluted by the success (or failure) Halo MCC will turn out to be.

So, as a compromise between our sales predictions (I expect 16 million for XB1 by end-2015, but I'm still working out the kinks in my prediction), let's say 18 million for XB1.

WiiU (NWU):

10 million is conservative for Wii U. You're underestimating the impact Japan has on the baseline. They'll add, like, 400k sales by year-end, but don't mind me :p

Considering the games coming out for Wii U (and Smash 3DS effects), I expect 4 million between now and year-end. I'm thinking of having 6.5 million Wii Us in households right now, so 10.5 million.

2015? I can draw up a prediction for you. It's called having a 60k/week minimum baseline all year round (overall average 90k/wk). That leads us to roughly 5 million Wii U units sold. So, uh, I think we'll see 4.5 million units. That leads us to 15 million.

I still hope the Wii U sells better than XB1, until Zelda U drops.



 
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Nope, not a chance! Smash brothers will be launching soon and what does Xbox one have to counteract that?



TheWPCTraveler said:
toastboy44562 said:

Xbox One should be at 12 million by the end of 2014

Wii U will be at 10 million by the end of 2014

 

Xbox One should be at 24 million by the end of 2015

Wii U will be around 13-14 million by the end of 2015

 

Xbox One will have a lead of ten million by the end of 2015!

That's one optimistic prediction you got there. Let me fix that with more conservative numbers.

XB1:

Let's take the 7 million you have and chop it down to 4 million. I expect that the XB1 is at 5.5 million now. So, 5.5 million with multiplats and some exclusives including Halo: MCC. Let me tell you why I think this is a conservative estimate: Halo MCC will dilute the impact of Halo 5 next year. That makes some 9.5 million XB1s. Quite a number we have there.

Now, let's cut down XB1 to just 8 million next year. Why, you ask? By what you're thinking, this seems like a conservative estimate. But, hear me out. The effect of Halo 5 will have been diluted by the success (or failure) Halo MCC will turn out to be.

So, as a compromise between our sales predictions (I expect 16 million for XB1 by end-2015, but I'm still working out the kinks in my prediction), let's say 18 million for XB1.

WiiU (NWU):

10 million is conservative for Wii U. You're underestimating the impact Japan has on the baseline. They'll add, like, 400k sales by year-end, but don't mind me :p

Considering the games coming out for Wii U (and Smash 3DS effects), I expect 4 million between now and year-end. I'm thinking of having 6.5 million Wii Us in households right now, so 10.5 million.

2015? I can draw up a prediction for you. It's called having a 60k/week minimum baseline all year round (overall average 90k/wk). That leads us to roughly 5 million Wii U units sold. So, uh, I think we'll see 4.5 million units. That leads us to 15 million.

I still hope the Wii U sells better than XB1, until Zelda U drops.

I think your numbers for next years wii u is still to little. They have hinted that they have a few other deals like devils third coming next year plus all the heavy hitter coming to the wii u like x, starfox, zelda and the big remake anouced. Next year I do think that we will see at least a 50% increase for the Wii U so like 6-7.5m in not out of the question.



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Shadow1980 said:
Aura_Warrior said:

your post was going well untill that part.

Why? I honestly think that with MK8 and Smash that this will be the peak year for the system. A price cut later this year or sometime next will help slow the decline. It was sitting at 5.4 million LTD at the end of last year. At the rate it's going, it'll probably sell around 4 million this year (though that's a minimum; I'd be willing to go as high as 5 million if Smash proves to be a big enough system seller). That would put it at about 9.5 million. If it sells 3.5 million next year (a small YoY decline of 12.5% from the assumed 4 million), that would put it at 13 million LTD by the end of 2015 (again, that's a minimum; 15M would be my absolute upper limit). Is it possible that it experiences YoY growth next year, thus making 2015 the peak? Sure, but I doubt it.

the wii u will sell quite more than you think in 2014. and the 2015 sales will be higher than in 2014.



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