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So Nintendo needs to be ahead

Wii U/XOne 18 12.95%
 
Wii U/PS4 46 33.09%
 
Wii U/PC 14 10.07%
 
Wii U/3DS 54 38.85%
 
Wii U/Vita 4 2.88%
 
Total:136
VanceIX said:
Serious_frusting said:
When Sony Wins you dont need another system because its that damn good.

Thats all I see from this data.

Not really. The Gamecube had a library that was almost on par with the PS2, and if you skipped those games then you skipped almost half of the awesomeness of 6th gen, imo. 

I said thats all i see from the data. I never said it was true. My "analysis" has more merit than the op. I was just pointing out how easy it is to make silly statements when all factors are not considered. :D



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Nintendo needs Nintendo. The VG industry only needs MS and Sony. Seems to be the trend lately



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Serious_frusting said:
VanceIX said:
Serious_frusting said:
When Sony Wins you dont need another system because its that damn good.

Thats all I see from this data.

Not really. The Gamecube had a library that was almost on par with the PS2, and if you skipped those games then you skipped almost half of the awesomeness of 6th gen, imo. 

I said thats all i see from the data. I never said it was true. My "analysis" has more merit than the op. I was just pointing out how easy it is to make silly statements when all factors are not considered. :D


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After seeing the OPs first two posts, I have to say this is very interesting, whether or not it's they actually contributed somehow to the total sales being good.



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I think that a point about leadership is somewhat injured by bringing install base numbers in as the judge of winning. In partcular, it undermines the degree of leadership Nintendo had during the N64 and Gamecube eras, where it made several influential innovations in both hardware and software. I certainly agree that a healthy Nintendo is important to maintaining that, since the response to an unhealthy Nintendo has been calls for them to stop innovating and simply follow whatever happens to be drawing the most growth at this moment.

I do think that the relative parity of the last generation is an interesting phenomenon, and I think it speaks far more loudly to the co-leadership of all the companies involved. Each took bold steps in various new directions in such a way that many core gamers wanted something from all three. This is why, in many ways, Xbox One's steps down to match Sony don't bode well for it, since it is transforming from a position of leadership to an also-ran, whose selling points are "we do that, too".

I think it is far too early to make any calls as to the outcome of the current generation, as it is still really trying to establish itself. It's possible that we could have another three-way tie (although I'm a bit doubtful about Xbox because of their messaging (current, not the previous controversy). And so long as development for Wii U manages to expand and maintain a profit so that their attitude toward leadership is not compromised, Nintendo will exhibit leadership, regardless of it's numbers.



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If the Wii was a gimmick then why did they follow the motion control afterwards? 



So... is the entire basis of this thread that, because when Nintendo was leader the others sold well, it automatically means that EVERY generation in which Nintendo becomes leader will let others sell well?

Cause gotta admit, that seems like extremely shaky logic. o.o So I must be missing something.



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Well, its common sense... It was a thing in the 7th gen. You gotta create something new... As what the Wii U is doing. But people just dont realize what the gamepad can do. And Motion control still exist. Wii U still has it, Xbox One still has it, PS4 still has it. All on Just Dance, Wii U with the Wii Sport Club, Xbox One with their Sports Rival. It still exist. But slowly dieing out since poeple only care about graphics.



agreed.
last time sony dominated, sega went out from hardware, nintendo almost and MS struggled.
that was bad for everyone, except sony.

when nintendo dominated(long ago, with nes, snes), sega started to make hardware, also sony.
it was very good for industry.



The Wii wasn't aimed at gamers so your point is redundant.