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poklane said:
Calling it now: If Microsoft drops the price to $400, Sony will drop the PS4 to $350. If Microsoft drops to $350, sony drops to $300.


Sony can't afford that. PS4 is the main money maker right now.



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poklane said:
Calling it now: If Microsoft drops the price to $400, Sony will drop the PS4 to $350. If Microsoft drops to $350, sony drops to $300.


Nope, PS4 would still spank it world wide sales.

other then pride there would be no reason to follow suit.



jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
fallen said:

That's it. Xbox One could drop to 399 or even 349 provided they're willing to drop Kinect, which I'm betting MS suits are getting ready to do right now (probably at E3 orf course) in view of weak sales.

 

So lets say a $349, no Kinect, Xbox One existed. The question is, could it outsell PS4? Just in North America/UK or worldwide? Or is the most powerful hardware impossible to overcome? Would people still prefer the $399 PS4 for more 1080P games?

 

I think that's the question MS has to be scared of, if the answer is no. Then, like Wii U, they truly are trapped.

The Xbone was at 399 for most of March due to unofficial pricecuts and promotions. The avg Xbone price last month was between 399-449 depending on the time and retailer you went, and with the crazy advertisement Titanfall got: PS4 still won  by 60k.

 

349k might help but I'm not sure MS already wants to cut the price by 150 bucks only a few months after launch.


Xbox One was 399 for less than 30 minutes due to an error on Amazon US while people were asleep. Not an average. And if you mean X1+ Titanfall then the Xbox would be 389.


More like 5 hours http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/25/xbox-one-forza-bundle-price-drops-to-399-on-amazon-with-discoun/

And 399 for Titanfall bundle on the MS store http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/microsoft-selling-xbox-titanfall-bundle-399/

 

Effectively making it 349 solus already



A More expensive PS3 outsold the 360 over time. A more expensive PS4 would still outsell the X1. X1 would probably take US at 299 Vs 399, but WW PS4 would still lead imo. It just goes to show how strong the Playstation brand is. Not taking anything away from Xbox success, but lets look at the facts here.



US/UK: yes
Rest of europe: probably no but xbone would jump significantly
Japan: no (and yes i know ps4 is doing bad there)

@$350 vs $400 i think the WW numbers would be about even.



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Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:


Xbox One was 399 for less than 30 minutes due to an error on Amazon US while people were asleep. Not an average. And if you mean X1+ Titanfall then the Xbox would be 389.


More like 5 hours http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/25/xbox-one-forza-bundle-price-drops-to-399-on-amazon-with-discoun/

And 399 for Titanfall bundle on the MS store http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/microsoft-selling-xbox-titanfall-bundle-399/

 

Effectively making it 349 solus already

dude we were in a thread when it happened. It was in no way, 5 hours. And if you checked your sources, both deals were dead within 30 minutes. The MS one worked for every product in the store, not just XB1.

Edit: The amazon one was an hour. The MS one was 30mins



fallen said:

That's it. Xbox One could drop to 399 or even 349 provided they're willing to drop Kinect, which I'm betting MS suits are getting ready to do right now (probably at E3 orf course) in view of weak sales.

 

So lets say a $349, no Kinect, Xbox One existed. The question is, could it outsell PS4? Just in North America/UK or worldwide? Or is the most powerful hardware impossible to overcome? Would people still prefer the $399 PS4 for more 1080P games?

 

I think that's the question MS has to be scared of, if the answer is no. Then, like Wii U, they truly are trapped.

 

XB1 would only have a chance at $299 vs PS4 priced at $399. For comparison, see the last generation. With a lower price level, XB1 would likely get a marketshare around 50-60% in English speaking regions although would still lose in the rest of the world and overall, just like what happened with the previous generation except that MS doesn't have the one year lead, wouldn't have the exclusive momentum created as a result, and the PS4 is actually easier to develop rather than being notoriously difficult to.



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Regional Analysis  (only MS and Sony Consoles)
Europe     => XB1 : 23-24 % vs PS4 : 76-77%
N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

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jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:


Xbox One was 399 for less than 30 minutes due to an error on Amazon US while people were asleep. Not an average. And if you mean X1+ Titanfall then the Xbox would be 389.


More like 5 hours http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/25/xbox-one-forza-bundle-price-drops-to-399-on-amazon-with-discoun/

And 399 for Titanfall bundle on the MS store http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/microsoft-selling-xbox-titanfall-bundle-399/

 

Effectively making it 349 solus already

dude we were in a thread when it happened. It was in no way, 5 hours. And if you checked your sources, both deals were dead within 30 minutes. The MS one worked for every product in the store, not just XB1.

Edit: The amazon one was an hour. The MS one was 30mins


Dude I was in that thread too, I remember it lasting for hours.

Either way, the console was already at 399+Kinect in its Titanfall month if you disregard the game they were giving with it.



I think it would have even the playing field a little but ps4 would still be selling high...Like most people say..there is way more bang for you buck with sony then Microsoft.



Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:

dude we were in a thread when it happened. It was in no way, 5 hours. And if you checked your sources, both deals were dead within 30 minutes. The MS one worked for every product in the store, not just XB1.

Edit: The amazon one was an hour. The MS one was 30mins


Dude I was in that thread too, I remember it lasting for hours.

Either way, the console was already at 399+Kinect in its Titanfall month if you disregard the game they were giving with it.


Thats why I said WE. You can check the link and see when it went dead

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/328422-dead-xbox-one-titanfall-bundle-for-399-online-at-microsoftstorecom-with-promo-code/