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I really don't like Joe, he is annoying and unfair towards a bunch of games he doesn't like. It's also a pretty stupid move to call the big reviewers names, just because they give other games high scores. Of course IGN were bought, everybody knows that. But he doesn't have to criticize the high scores. If he gives it a low one it's alright and he can show his grief towards higher scores more discretly.

What I'm really stunned by is the rating system of IGN and I'm curious why Joe wasn't more bewildered by it and just got mad. Does this IGN guy really say that something with an 8 in front is "great" and a "9" is amazing and that is everything that counts? So an 8.9 and an 8 are much closer than an 8.9 and a 9? That's the biggest pile of turd I've EVER heard. Why don't they just give full numbers then? And this guy is acting like it's common sense. I'm hating review sites more from day to day. Just crazy.



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Just checked Titanfall on Origin.

It says this:

“BELIEVE THE HYPE” – IGN

 

So whether it was part of the review or not, considering it is used in advertising for the game it has to be something IGN stands by, so I do not see the issue with using their quote and then displaying the score they ultimately gave the title. Unless of course IGN decides now that they do not want to stick with one of those, in which I would expect then to see Dan bitch at EA for using it on Origin. 



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Screw whining joe .titanfall is awesome !



ktay95 said:
Well that was good for a laugh.
Anyway being too lazy to watch the review does Joe not say something along the lines of "high scores like 9/10 or 10/10"?
8.9/10 is a lot like a 9/10.
He also has every right as a reviewer to say he disagrees with other reviewers opinions, provided you dont live in a shit country disagreeing with opinions is totally ok =P


What are you trying to say here?



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The Fury said:
JakDaSnack said:
Dan is "more" in the right than joe is based off the twitter conversation you posted. Joe shouldn't have misquoted ign, since he clearly didn't read the review but only looked at the score, and then misquoted that. 8.9 is a big difference from 9. If they wanted it to be rounded up then they would have given it a 9. Dan may have overreacted a bit, but so did Joe. That's my opinion anyways.

Even Joe said he wasn't specifically saying 'IGN' or Dan when he mentioned '9/10' (He also mentioned 10/10, didn't he?) he just happened to show the IGN score at the time. This isn't misquoting IGN because you can't misquote something when it is a print screen. 

I find this quite odd as I would have expected most people to side with Joe, not because of the review but because of Dan's attitude. I don't even watch Joe but this Dan guy (I've never heard of until now) comes off as a right numpty. He went off on one about the different between 8.9 and 9, which to most gamers is pretty much a 9. If IGN want to do 'point' scores then they should do them out of 100. And Dan stepped randomly having a go as well not even about Titanfall.

Huh? You can misquote inmany number of ways. He took a screen shot from an IGN video review and used a quote from the review together and was clearly referencing IGN's coverage of the game in his criticism. He may not have outright misquoted them in this instance but he did twist the IGN reviewer's words and used them out of context. And while 0.1 might not mean much to him it does to the IGN reviewers as it places a game into a totally different level of quality.

Also, even though I most likely would agree with AJ's review score over IGn's after having played the beta and being underwhelmed and therefore skipped buying it, I find it silly that if the game is overall fun and with the main focus being on the multiplayer how the campaign should drag the score down in any significant way.

Had they just left out any campaign mode would that have raised the score for AJ? I watched his review and all the way until he started talking about the campaign he was hyping up the game to the rafters. So had Respawn left out the campaign would he have scored it a 8 or a 9? Or is it required to have a campaign mode to score over a 7?

I think both he and Dan look silly in this matter but I think AJ started it with his disingenuous reporting on how other review sites were "hyping" it up. Seriously, was he just trying to be the anti-IGN when he reviewed it?



Wow, that sucks. This is why I do not review or make videos on anything, you never know who you are going to offend or hurt, I cannot stand this =/



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Leadified said:
J_Allard said:
The IGN guy is absolutely right, their review is misrepresented in Joes review and he takes their quotes out of context. Sad to see him get so childish when called out in it.


Except he didn't?

Except he did?

Misrepresentation:

Joe whines and cries about the scores that sites are handing out. He says 9's and 10's. IGN gave the game neither a 9 nor a 10. This is a pretty small complaint though. The bigger one, is that while whining about the review scores, Joe goes a little deeper with his crying and is upset that sites don't tag the game for what he believes to be shortcomings. Yet IGN did hit on them. Not all of them, but why should they? He's just a reviewer, and a below average one at best. What he believes to be issues or "disturbing trends" doesn't mean everyone needs to disagree. But the bottom line is he tried to lump IGN in with some other sites when the facts told a different story.


Misquoting:

This one is the most blatantly obvious, and is so much so, that I wonder why you even bolded it and tried to say otherwise. In his review, again, he's crying about reviews. He is sarcastically tossing out tag lines from reviews and review scores and he throws out IGN's "believe the hype" line. He even shows it in his review. The problem is that wasn't IGN's review, it was their preview. It's very misleading to cry about how review sites are BS'ing in their reviews, but then show a comment from a preview. What's worse, is there's no way that was an honest mistake. He had to actually go and find the "I Played Titanfall" article from August or so of last year, and include that in. He simply thinks his viewers are too dumb to notice/care.

The saddest part of all is when he's called out on it he can't form a big boy response and just defaults to name calling and pouting.



dahuman said:
adriane23 said:

Dan Stapleton is a true moron, and he should really stop trying to argue with people that are smarter than him (that's pretty much everyone). I remember arguing with him over the BS regarding not giving GTA Online a review score, and I swear it was like arguing with an 8 year old. His points made no sense and were just full of holes. He really needs to stop embarassing himself.


I agree that a lot of people at IGN are idiots, but the issue at hand is not whether or not he should give that game a review score but rather how Joe is misquoting things, let's stick to the topic at hand instead of how Dan is obviously an idiot.

Joe didn't misquote anything. If you watch his review (which was very thorough and well thought out), he basically poked fun at the statement "believe the hype" and mentioned 9/10 and 10/10 scores. That's not misquoting.



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J_Allard said:
Leadified said:
J_Allard said:
The IGN guy is absolutely right, their review is misrepresented in Joes review and he takes their quotes out of context. Sad to see him get so childish when called out in it.


Except he didn't?

Except he did?

Misrepresentation:

Joe whines and cries about the scores that sites are handing out. He says 9's and 10's. IGN gave the game neither a 9 nor a 10. This is a pretty small complaint though. At what point did he say that IGN SPECIFICALLY gave the game a 9 or a 10? He posted the score THEY gave out, that's hardly misrepresentation. Besides even if Joe did quote IGN directly on giving the game a 9/10 when in reality they gave the game a 8.9/10, that is a really tough call to say that you are misprepresenting them.  The bigger one, is that while whining about the review scores, Joe goes a little deeper with his crying and is upset that sites don't tag the game for what he believes to be shortcomings. Yet IGN did hit on them. Not all of them, but why should they? He's just a reviewer, and a below average one at best. What he believes to be issues or "disturbing trends" doesn't mean everyone needs to disagree. But the bottom line is he tried to lump IGN in with some other sites when the facts told a different story. What are you even talking about here?? For one thing his comments on twitter are completely irrelevent to what he says in his reviews. Second of all having an opinion about the REVIEW SCORES of others is misrepresentation? Okay whatever you say. Third of all, lump IGN with other sites, what? You mean as a major outlet site? Well they are. What are your "facts"?


Misquoting:

This one is the most blatantly obvious, and is so much so, that I wonder why you even bolded it and tried to say otherwise. In his review, again, he's crying about reviews. He is sarcastically tossing out tag lines from reviews and review scores and he throws out IGN's "believe the hype" line. He even shows it in his review. The problem is that wasn't IGN's review, it was their preview. It's very misleading to cry about how review sites are BS'ing in their reviews, but then show a comment from a preview. What's worse, is there's no way that was an honest mistake. He had to actually go and find the "I Played Titanfall" article from August or so of last year, and include that in. He simply thinks his viewers are too dumb to notice/care. "I am suprised major outlets are giving this game high scores, "believe the hype", 10/10, 9/10." At what point did Joe say, "IGN said in their review to believe the hype"? He didn't, he said major outlets are giving high scores, which is true and major outlets are saying to believe the hype which is also true. It doesn't matter if it came from a review or a preview.

The saddest part of all is when he's called out on it he can't form a big boy response and just defaults to name calling and pouting. "Big boy response"? Dan attacked him out of nowhere.