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padib said:
kowenicki said:

No.  I'm a guy that owns a very successful business.  

Only people that arent entrepreneurs call themselves entrepreneurs and I dont think I've ever done that unless I was pissed or trying to piss someone off (which i do from time to time)

answer this, after that long list of apparent mistakes, nay crimes against gamers listed above... how come the 360 sold the same as the PS3?  How was that possible?

If I said price, would you believe me?

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kowenicki said:
Price is 95% of it.

saying anything else is delusional.




poor kowenicki.....

 

having a console that is 50% more powerful than your xbox

having a console with an actual first party relevance

having a console with way more games coming not just from big 3rd parties, but from innovative studios

having a console where people constantly get a stream of free ip.. and AAA ip like outlast and resogun..

a console that can play the same games your console can, but better with DOUBLE THE FRAMERATE AND even DOUBLE THE RESOLUTION at times..

 

of course price is the only thing that has to do with anything....... of course

makes one wonder why the MORE COSTLY playstation 3 is over a million units ahead of the xbox 360.. which is a much cheaper option..



 

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kowenicki said:
Zekkyou said:
kowenicki said:
Price is 95% of it.

saying anything else is delusional.



So it's delusional to believe that more than 5% of the PS4's success is due to being the bigger global brand, not having a pre-launch shitstorm and constantly being publicized in having the superior version of most multi plats?

Gotchaaaa.


If the ONE was $100 less the the PS4 in the US, it would be way ahead. Simple as that.  Deny it all you want.


Fantasize it all you want.  ;)



kowenicki said:
padib said:
kowenicki said:

No.  I'm a guy that owns a very successful business.  

Only people that arent entrepreneurs call themselves entrepreneurs and I dont think I've ever done that unless I was pissed or trying to piss someone off (which i do from time to time)

answer this, after that long list of apparent mistakes, nay crimes against gamers listed above... how come the 360 sold the same as the PS3?  How was that possible?

If I said price, would you believe me?

BINGO!

Well you've won me over.

 

If nothing else this thread has made me respect kowenicki alot more. And given me an urge to buy an Xbox One.



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

kowenicki said:
padib said:
kowenicki said:

No.  I'm a guy that owns a very successful business.  

Only people that arent entrepreneurs call themselves entrepreneurs and I dont think I've ever done that unless I was pissed or trying to piss someone off (which i do from time to time)

answer this, after that long list of apparent mistakes, nay crimes against gamers listed above... how come the 360 sold the same as the PS3?  How was that possible?

If I said price, would you believe me?

BINGO!

So, despite being priced more expensive than the PS3 for the longer portion of its lifetime, it still outsold the PS3, and you're arguing that the 360 beat the PS3 thanks to its more expensive pricepoint? Are you arguing that securing IPs like Gears of War, offering big exclusive hits like Halo or new succesful technologies like Kinect, or that Xbox live's online quality played no role in the 360's success?

Also, what is your opinion on the Ouya which is priced at 99$ new?



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padib said:
kowenicki said:
padib said:
kowenicki said:

No.  I'm a guy that owns a very successful business.  

Only people that arent entrepreneurs call themselves entrepreneurs and I dont think I've ever done that unless I was pissed or trying to piss someone off (which i do from time to time)

answer this, after that long list of apparent mistakes, nay crimes against gamers listed above... how come the 360 sold the same as the PS3?  How was that possible?

If I said price, would you believe me?

BINGO!

So, despite being priced more expensive than the PS3 for the longer portion of its lifetime, it still outsold the PS3, and you're arguing that the 360 beat the PS3 thanks to its more expensive pricepoint?

Also, what is your opinion on the Ouya which is priced at 99$ new?

he lost..

ps3 outsold xbox 360, and is DESTROYING XBOX 360 in sales today.. despite being much more expensive than xbox 360..

 

it really isn't just price kowenicki..... if that were the case WII U would be ahead of both



 

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leo-j said:
kowenicki said:
Price is 95% of it.

saying anything else is delusional.




poor kowenicki.....

 

having a console that is 50% more powerful than your xbox

having a console with an actual first party relevance

having a console with way more games coming not just from big 3rd parties, but from innovative studios

having a console where people constantly get a stream of free ip.. and AAA ip like outlast and resogun..

a console that can play the same games your console can, but better with DOUBLE THE FRAMERATE AND even DOUBLE THE RESOLUTION at times..

 

of course price is the only thing that has to do with anything....... of course

makes one wonder why the MORE COSTLY playstation 3 is over a million units ahead of the xbox 360.. which is a much cheaper option..

Terrible post.

There is healthy debate....and then there is this.....(don´t use the fan-man word !)......reeking of condescension and what feels like some superiority complex......post.



leo-j said:
padib said:
kowenicki said:
padib said:
kowenicki said:

No.  I'm a guy that owns a very successful business.  

Only people that arent entrepreneurs call themselves entrepreneurs and I dont think I've ever done that unless I was pissed or trying to piss someone off (which i do from time to time)

answer this, after that long list of apparent mistakes, nay crimes against gamers listed above... how come the 360 sold the same as the PS3?  How was that possible?

If I said price, would you believe me?

BINGO!

So, despite being priced more expensive than the PS3 for the longer portion of its lifetime, it still outsold the PS3, and you're arguing that the 360 beat the PS3 thanks to its more expensive pricepoint?

Also, what is your opinion on the Ouya which is priced at 99$ new?

he lost..

ps3 outsold xbox 360, and is DESTROYING XBOX 360 in sales today.. despite being much more expensive than xbox 360..

 

it really isn't just price kowenicki..... if that were the case WII U would be ahead of both


Not according to the latest shipment data.

Xbox 360 is still outselling PS3 in some markets though. And back when the PS3 was alot more expensive the 360 was destroying it. Price isn't the only factor but it is certainly the most important one. PS3 made its comeback by being priced relatively better. Xbox One and PS4 would very close if price was the same. And as kowenicki suggested earlier the Xbox One would be ahead if it was $100 cheaper than the PS4. So price!

 

As for the Wii U. Well that is lacking in a lot of areas hence the low sales. The Xbox One and PS4 are very similar consoles meaning price is a much larger factor than would otherwise be the case.



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

 

Torillian said:

 

 

kowenicki said:

 

 

2. Oh I'm sorry I'm mistaken, remind me again what XB1 exclusives came out in January or Febuary? December perhaps?


2. Wasn't that gardening simulator made by EA an xb1 exclusive? it counts because it's not self published (I.E. Indie)



orniletter said:
leo-j said:
kowenicki said:
Price is 95% of it.

saying anything else is delusional.




poor kowenicki.....

 

having a console that is 50% more powerful than your xbox

having a console with an actual first party relevance

having a console with way more games coming not just from big 3rd parties, but from innovative studios

having a console where people constantly get a stream of free ip.. and AAA ip like outlast and resogun..

a console that can play the same games your console can, but better with DOUBLE THE FRAMERATE AND even DOUBLE THE RESOLUTION at times..

 

of course price is the only thing that has to do with anything....... of course

makes one wonder why the MORE COSTLY playstation 3 is over a million units ahead of the xbox 360.. which is a much cheaper option..

Terrible post.

There is healthy debate....and then there is this.....(don´t use the fan-man word !)......post.

I took that post as sarcasm. Atleast I hope that is what it is.



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702