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curl-6 on 15 March 2014
Scoobes said:
curl-6 said:

I dunno, their last Nintendo game, Starfox Adventures, already marked the beginning of their mediocrity streak that continues today. Nintendo were just fine without the likes of Perfect Dark Zero and Nuts 'n' Bolts.

One game on its own does not mark a mediocrity streak. With Nintendo's guiding hand there's no telling how successive games may have fared in terms of quality. It could have just been a one off, but with the takeover from Microsoft we'll never know.

I said it was the beginning of the streak; it was mediocre and so are all their games after it.

If I recall correctly a lot of their core staff left around the time of SA, that could be why.



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TheLegendaryWolf on 15 March 2014
curl-6 said:
Scoobes said:
curl-6 said:

I dunno, their last Nintendo game, Starfox Adventures, already marked the beginning of their mediocrity streak that continues today. Nintendo were just fine without the likes of Perfect Dark Zero and Nuts 'n' Bolts.

One game on its own does not mark a mediocrity streak. With Nintendo's guiding hand there's no telling how successive games may have fared in terms of quality. It could have just been a one off, but with the takeover from Microsoft we'll never know.

I said it was the beginning of the streak; it was mediocre and so are all their games after it.

If I recall correctly a lot of their core staff left around the time of SA, that could be why.

Star Fox Assault wasn't as good as it could have been, but I wouldn't call it mediocre. Star Fox Command wasn't that great either but far from bad.



curl-6 on 15 March 2014
TheLegendaryWolf said:
curl-6 said:
Scoobes said:
curl-6 said:

I dunno, their last Nintendo game, Starfox Adventures, already marked the beginning of their mediocrity streak that continues today. Nintendo were just fine without the likes of Perfect Dark Zero and Nuts 'n' Bolts.

One game on its own does not mark a mediocrity streak. With Nintendo's guiding hand there's no telling how successive games may have fared in terms of quality. It could have just been a one off, but with the takeover from Microsoft we'll never know.

I said it was the beginning of the streak; it was mediocre and so are all their games after it.

If I recall correctly a lot of their core staff left around the time of SA, that could be why.

Star Fox Assault wasn't as good as it could have been, but I wouldn't call it mediocre. Star Fox Command wasn't that great either but far from bad.

Rare didn't make Starfox Assault or Command.



TheLegendaryWolf on 15 March 2014
curl-6 said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:
curl-6 said:
Scoobes said:
curl-6 said:

I dunno, their last Nintendo game, Starfox Adventures, already marked the beginning of their mediocrity streak that continues today. Nintendo were just fine without the likes of Perfect Dark Zero and Nuts 'n' Bolts.

One game on its own does not mark a mediocrity streak. With Nintendo's guiding hand there's no telling how successive games may have fared in terms of quality. It could have just been a one off, but with the takeover from Microsoft we'll never know.

I said it was the beginning of the streak; it was mediocre and so are all their games after it.

If I recall correctly a lot of their core staff left around the time of SA, that could be why.

Star Fox Assault wasn't as good as it could have been, but I wouldn't call it mediocre. Star Fox Command wasn't that great either but far from bad.

Rare didn't make Starfox Assault or Command.

Oh, i though you meant the Star fox Series, thanks for clarifying.



Samus Aran on 15 March 2014

Conduit looks like absolute garbage. How can you say that's the best looking Wii game lol?

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AlphaCielago on 15 March 2014

If you're going to be serious then why use Trine 2 as an example?



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Ninricken on 15 March 2014

So let's see what the Wii U can do.

 

By the way Rockstar pushed the PS3 and the 360 to the limits with GTA V, didn't they?



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Jumpin on 15 March 2014
painmaster212 said:
Wouldn't having the best game on the console make up for this though?

Most of these are widely considered the best by most.

NES - SMB3
SNES - ALTTP,SMW (debatable)
N64 - OoT,SM64
GC - SSBM,WW,TP
Wii - SMG, SMG2, SSBB
Wii U - SM3DW

I agree in the spirit of this thread but not on the arguable point, which I will argue differently!
Chrono Trigger is easily the best SNES game. I would even put DKC 1-3 ahead of SMW and LTTP, along with Final Fantasy 6, Terranigma, Illusion of Time. I wouldn't even call those the best Nintendo games on the system considering Earthbound was on it.



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d21lewis on 15 March 2014

You're looking back at it with historical knowledge. A lot of Nintendo's games either set or raised the bar at the time of release. Sometimes, they were exceeed later. Examples:

Nes: Super Mario 3 pushed the Nes so hard that it needed a built in chip (called the MMC3) to run the game. According to Nintendo, the bottom screen was actually a split screen.

Super Nes: Again, Yoshi's island needed the SFX chip to pull off the effects. Rolling environments, scaling and rotation, polygonal effrects. Not an easy feat on the 16-bit console. DKC had the rendered sprites but Yoshi was pulling off effects that Donkey Kong wasn't even attempting.

N64: Wave Race and its water effects were never equalled during the entire gen. Majora's Mask was running side by side with PS2 games and, while not as impressive now, looked absolutely stunning among other games. It required the Expansion Pak to run *just like DK64

Gamecube: Twilight Princess went head to head with RE4 for the graphics crown on Gamecube. It was even a launch title for the Wii with virtually no upgrades and still praised for its graphics. Again, standards have changed so what impressed then doesn't impress now. We focus on different things.

Wii: Mario Galaxy? Metroid Prime 3? Skyward Sword!? Brawl!?



d21lewis on 15 March 2014

Hold that thought. ex girlfriend interfering w my posting!