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Forums - Sales Discussion - February 2014 NPD Thread! PS4: 285k, XBO: 258k, Wii U: 82k

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
WHO THE HELL IS DOING THE TRACKING HERE AT VGC!
Making me think Console Market was dying with all this Under tracking!


VGC simply aint got the resources that NPD do.

Remember, the numbers here are simply estimations. Dont take them as factual. Ever.



                            

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Max King of the Wild said:
BenVTrigger said:
And this is my last post regarding this stuff as its off topic, but if you have a problem with me say it on my wall, don't derail a thread to slander me, or try to make it out like I'm just spreading FUD. Every single things I've ever said on here regarding numbers, leaks was what I hoped was good for the community and to give you guys a little insight on behind the scenes stuff and get some discussion going.

Maybe thats a mistake, as like anyone who does these kinds of things will tell you its impossible to be 100% accurate all the time. Things change, different retailers get different numbers, game announcements get delayed or changed. Its not easy and frankly risky.

Perhaps I'll just stick to my screenshot thread where its just us a few of us posting screens and being civil. Maybe I'll lay off saying anything about numbers or giving you a guys hints at whats gonna be announced. If thats what people from here want from me then so be it. I never went into any thread ANYWHERE on this forum in the 6 years I've been here and tried dragging peoples names through the mud. If I disagreed with tI confronted them in person directly.

Again I apologize for this off topic post mods, I just saw too much discussion going on in here about me, and it had little to do with my assessment of what February NPD would look like and more just bashing me. Hopefully this will end that thread of discussion.


I dont have anything against your or your leaks (I enjoy them). What I did have something against was the notion you arent bias because in fact you are. You definitly favor XB more than PS (unless somethings changed recently) even if it is at a much lesser extent than most everybody else. There isnt anything wrong with that. I think you are taking what I said slightly too personal and looking into it way too much. I was merely pointing out some inconsistencies.

The only problem I have with your leaks is you say something and immediatly become meekish. Example, someone asks you "are you saying this?" and your response is "i dont know. am i?" or "maybe thats what im saying." Other than that kee them coming.


I can't disagree with you there, as I do enjoy Xbox more than Playstation in general. I've always been upfront about that. I always see Playstation consoles as my "exclusives machines" to play Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, etc games on. I do the majority of my console gaming on Xbox as thats where the majority of my friends lists and achievements are. (I know trophies are the same thing but for some reason I care about my Gamerscore more lol)

So yes I very well may have taken your posts too personally and if so I apologize. The reason I'm generally meek about explicitly stating things though is I know beyond all shadow of a doubt that top end brass from Gamestop regurally visit this site. Don't ask me how, but they do.



Wow...These number are really weird.

March is going to be really interesting. The U.S. is a fight still.



Bet with Adamblaziken:

I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.

Don't worry guys, in april we will have great games: batman arkhan origins blackgate and child of ligth! Anyway, inb4 price cut in april, lets jsut wait and see.



"Hardware design isn’t about making the most powerful thing you can.
Today most hardware design is left to other companies, but when you make hardware without taking into account the needs of the eventual software developers, you end up with bloated hardware full of pointless excess. From the outset one must consider design from both a hardware and software perspective."

Gunpei Yoko

So... Wii U sold 66k in february 2013 thus this year is 82.5k



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BenVTrigger said:

I can't disagree with you there, as I do enjoy Xbox more than Playstation in general. I've always been upfront about that. I always see Playstation consoles as my "exclusives machines" to play Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, etc games on. I do the majority of my console gaming on Xbox as thats where the majority of my friends lists and achievements are. (I know trophies are the same thing but for some reason I care about my Gamerscore more lol)

So yes I very well may have taken your posts too personally and if so I apologize. The reason I'm generally meek about explicitly stating things though is I know beyond all shadow of a doubt that top end brass from Gamestop regurally visit this site. Don't ask me how, but they do.


I'm glad we cleared this up. As for the brass, I didnt know that but it makes sense. When I talk about Target I dont very much care because I doubt they know of this site first of all and Im just a lowly old part time team member whos just learned a few tricks on the computer from the higher ups. Which is why I can talk in absolutes. Im not too attached to my job to care



BenVTrigger said:
And this is my last post regarding this stuff as its off topic, but if you have a problem with me say it on my wall, don't derail a thread to slander me, or try to make it out like I'm just spreading FUD. Every single things I've ever said on here regarding numbers, leaks was what I hoped was good for the community and to give you guys a little insight on behind the scenes stuff and get some discussion going.

Maybe thats a mistake, as like anyone who does these kinds of things will tell you its impossible to be 100% accurate all the time. Things change, different retailers get different numbers, game announcements get delayed or changed. Its not easy and frankly risky.

Perhaps I'll just stick to my screenshot thread where its just us a few of us posting screens and being civil. Maybe I'll lay off saying anything about numbers or giving you a guys hints at whats gonna be announced. If thats what people from here want from me then so be it. I never went into any thread ANYWHERE on this forum in the 6 years I've been here and tried dragging peoples names through the mud. If I disagreed with them I confronted them in person directly.

Again I apologize for this off topic post mods, I just saw too much discussion going on in here about me, and it had little to do with my assessment of what February NPD would look like and more just bashing me. Hopefully this will end that thread of discussion.


Yep like i said just ignore them. Some ppl just want to attack opposing members. Well at least try to ignore. I hope you dont but dont get banned for the petty console "wars" some want to keep going.



Max King of the Wild said:
BenVTrigger said:

I can't disagree with you there, as I do enjoy Xbox more than Playstation in general. I've always been upfront about that. I always see Playstation consoles as my "exclusives machines" to play Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, etc games on. I do the majority of my console gaming on Xbox as thats where the majority of my friends lists and achievements are. (I know trophies are the same thing but for some reason I care about my Gamerscore more lol)

So yes I very well may have taken your posts too personally and if so I apologize. The reason I'm generally meek about explicitly stating things though is I know beyond all shadow of a doubt that top end brass from Gamestop regurally visit this site. Don't ask me how, but they do.


I'm glad we cleared this up. As for the brass, I didnt know that but it makes sense. When I talk about Target I dont very much care because I doubt they know of this site first of all and Im just a lowly old part time team member whos just learned a few tricks on the computer from the higher ups. Which is why I can talk in absolutes. Im not too attached to my job to care


Haha that must be nice, for me its a full time career and I know there's a legitimate chance they know who I am. I have to be careful not to spoil anything that could hurt the company and gauge what I personally think they wouldn't mind me discussing.

So far, its done me good since in this entire time I haven't recieved any discipline. That being said Gamestop see's LOTS of numbers but they like to look at estimates as well. Gotta keep dibs on the industry



Aquamarine data make me believe that:
PS3: 102K
PS4: 268K



"Hardware design isn’t about making the most powerful thing you can.
Today most hardware design is left to other companies, but when you make hardware without taking into account the needs of the eventual software developers, you end up with bloated hardware full of pointless excess. From the outset one must consider design from both a hardware and software perspective."

Gunpei Yoko

that tax return money at work:p