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J_Allard said:
BMaker11 said:

uhhh....I said "begging" because of the sign on the door. Businesses put those signs on their doors when they have too much stock and want customers to alleviate some of that stock. Despite what someone else said in this thread, they don't put it on the door for sellout items that get bought pretty much as soon as they sell, otherwise they'd be putting the sign up and taking it down everyday (which is misleading since you don't say "we have X" when you only have enough to last like an hour, for example). Clearly this Best Buy was wanting people to clear the pile that's just building up (unless you think they got a shipment of 64 units all at once). "Begging" may be a word that you guys don't like, but it's technically what's going on.

Plus, what kind of gripe is "you added commentary"? Was I just supposed to post the pics, then say nothing? I gave context, which is something you should want for a post of this nature. I wouldn't have said they're "begging" if that sign wasn't there, I would have just said "there's a lot of stock at my Best Buy". You make it seem like something like that is normal. Why don't WalMarts go ahead and post "we have Froot Loops" outside, even though people haven't been questioning about it and there's an overabundance of Froot Loops in the cereal aisle? You guys are too sensitive.

Aren't you the same guy who once tried to imply that MS and Sony each have detailed daily up to the minute information on how many units are out there in each store and should alert people accordingly? Yeah, you didn't really understand how retailed worked then and you don't here either. You put signs up for product that will sell and that you have in stock. If people weren't buying the consoles, there's no reason to put the sign up. Making people aware that you have ample supply of something that isn't selling for you, is not smart business. I think someone else pointed this out earlier, this Best Buy is run by someone who doesn't know how to manage retail very well. You slap a ton of product out in the open like that and it makes people think they don't need to buy it right then and you have plenty in stock.

When I worked retail I had a rule that any time a customer called for a high price electronic item we told them we only had 2 or 3 left. That makes the customer think they better hurry and get it. You tell them you have 10 or 11, they wait and probably change their mind. What does a customer think when he sees a big stack of a $500 console? He thinks there's no rush. You leave that sign up and only have 1 or 2 on the floor, another story entirely.

When MS was saying the XBone was sold out when it wasn't, and pics like mine were everywhere on the internet, and there are stock trackers all over the internet saying which retailers have what in stock that testify about those pics, yet MS still told everyone that they were sold out at retailers: yea, I was that guy.

You are completely wrong, though. If you "put signs up for product that will sell and that you have in stock" there'd be a PS4 sign as well, considering they had them when I went there and they obviously didn't only get a shipment of 3 (and there'd be signs for all the electronics that sell well and they have in stock). You make people aware of an alternative when you have plenty of it and are sold out of the first option. "Hey guys, we know this one product is selling, but we do have this completely viable alternative on our shelves". If my WalMart is sold out of Sprite, I'm gonna buy a Sierra Mist, for example. And like I explained before, video game consoles are not commodities. If I want an XBone right now, I'm not gonna go into the store, see there's a bunch of stock and think "welp, guess I don't want it anymore. I can get it later" just like I wouldn't go "I'm not gonna get Sprite right now since I can get it later". That's just damage control to say that people seeing the product means people don't want the product right now. You don't walk into a store with $500, see the product that you want, and then not buy it....because you have the opportunity to buy it. Video games are not "need" items. They are "want" items. And nobody postpones a "want" item when they have the means to get it. If I want to play an XBone right now, I'd get it, not wait until there's 2 left and say "oh, there's not many left, I should go get it". That kind of tactic only works for impulse buyers with money to blow, not people that walk into the store knowing they wanted an XBone. 

Look at how many times an Amazon thread for PS4 came up here. With 1000+ in stock. Was anyone saying "hey, there's over 1000 in stock. Guess I don't need to buy this right now"? No, it sold out in a few hours. 



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Darth Tigris said:
BMaker11 said:
Darth Tigris said:

You made observations.  Then you added commentary:

"Moral of the story: yay, I got a PS4. They don't keep them out because the demand is so high, people would steal them (at least, that's what the associate implied), while conversely, they are basically begging people to buy their XBones.

I don't care if you're one of those "anecdotal evidence means nothing" type of person. It's pretty ridiculous when I call in and there's 3 PS4s left and an hour later 2 of them are already bought and I got the last one, while there's a huge stack of XBones out in the open even though they won't even display PS4s."

Begging people to buy the Xbox One.  That was a ridiculous, inaccurate and biased thing to say.  There is nothing ridiculous about only having a few PS4's and not putting them out while having a healthy supply of XBO's and having them out on display.  In fact, it's ... exactly how any store would handle a situation like this.  You are implying there is something wrong with the rate that the XBO is selling at and the amount of supply that is available when your observation (and biased commentary) gives NOTHING to support that.

uhhh....I said "begging" because of the sign on the door. Businesses put those signs on their doors when they have too much stock and want customers to alleviate some of that stock. Despite what someone else said in this thread, they don't put it on the door for sellout items that get bought pretty much as soon as they sell, otherwise they'd be putting the sign up and taking it down everyday (which is misleading since you don't say "we have X" when you only have enough to last like an hour, for example). Clearly this Best Buy was wanting people to clear the pile that's just building up (unless you think they got a shipment of 64 units all at once). "Begging" may be a word that you guys don't like, but it's technically what's going on.

Plus, what kind of gripe is "you added commentary"? Was I just supposed to post the pics, then say nothing? I gave context, which is something you should want for a post of this nature. I wouldn't have said they're "begging" if that sign wasn't there, I would have just said "there's a lot of stock at my Best Buy". You make it seem like something like that is normal. Why don't WalMarts go ahead and post "we have Froot Loops" outside, even though people haven't been questioning about it and there's an overabundance of Froot Loops in the cereal aisle? You guys are too sensitive.

Ok you obviously don't know much about how retail works and are taking a single example and projecting all kinds of personal opinions about it as fact.  I was seeing if you were going to be reasonable about this but I get it now.  Thanks for making clear your true colors so I know what to expect now.  I hope you enjoy your PS4.

I took a single example based on a single store. I didn't project it about Best Buy as a whole. But sure, imply that I don't know how retail works because what I have to say doesn't suit your opinion. As if you didn't project what you stated as fact.



BMaker11 said:

I saw the thread that said PS4s were in stock at Best Buy, so I figured, why not try and get one. I called up and asked if they had any in stock, and they said 3. So after I got off work, I rushed there to make sure I could secure one. When I got to Best Buy, this is the first thing I see on the automatic doors

Anyway, I went in and looked for PS4s. Didn't see any. I asked an associate if they had any, and she got another associate to go in the back and he came out with one. The first associate said to me "this was the last one. We don't keep these out on display because they 'just grow legs and walk out on there own' if you know what I mean". Meanwhile, I look up and see this:

Moral of the story: yay, I got a PS4. They don't keep them out because the demand is so high, people would steal them (at least, that's what the associate implied), while conversely, they are basically begging people to buy their XBones.

I don't care if you're one of those "anecdotal evidence means nothing" type of person. It's pretty ridiculous when I call in and there's 3 PS4s left and an hour later 2 of them are already bought and I got the last one, while there's a huge stack of XBones out in the open even though they won't even display PS4s.

Chalk it up as another entry in the "demand of each console" discussions


This is what every shop here looks like... for a couple of weeks already. no offense, just sayin how it is



Max King of the Wild said:
Nsanity said:

The problem is NPD, because according to them the Xbox One was the best selling console last month, but the pictures that people have been take say otherwise.


according to them it was a tie with one console highly supply constrained.

I'm pretty sure it was the best selling: http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/16/5317238/xbox-one-bestselling-console-in-us-last-month-npd-says



BMaker11 said:

When MS was saying the XBone was sold out when it wasn't, and pics like mine were everywhere on the internet, and there are stock trackers all over the internet saying which retailers have what in stock that testify about those pics, yet MS still told everyone that they were sold out at retailers: yea, I was that guy.

Yikes, you're still confused on all of that. I'm not really going to bother trying to help you understand that MS comment, but you still don't know much about how retail works.

BMaker11 said:

You are completely wrong, though. If you "put signs up for product that will sell and that you have in stock" there'd be a PS4 sign as well, considering they had them when I went there and they obviously didn't only get a shipment of 3 (and there'd be signs for all the electronics that sell well and they have in stock). You make people aware of an alternative when you have plenty of it and are sold out of the first option. "Hey guys, we know this one product is selling, but we do have this completely viable alternative on our shelves". If my WalMart is sold out of Sprite, I'm gonna buy a Sierra Mist, for example. And like I explained before, video game consoles are not commodities. If I want an XBone right now, I'm not gonna go into the store, see there's a bunch of stock and think "welp, guess I don't want it anymore. I can get it later" just like I wouldn't go "I'm not gonna get Sprite right now since I can get it later". That's just damage control to say that people seeing the product means people don't want the product right now. You don't walk into a store with $500, see the product that you want, and then not buy it....because you have the opportunity to buy it. Video games are not "need" items. They are "want" items. And nobody postpones a "want" item when they have the means to get it. If I want to play an XBone right now, I'd get it, not wait until there's 2 left and say "oh, there's not many left, I should go get it". That kind of tactic only works for impulse buyers with money to blow, not people that walk into the store knowing they wanted an XBone. 

Look at how many times an Amazon thread for PS4 came up here. With 1000+ in stock. Was anyone saying "hey, there's over 1000 in stock. Guess I don't need to buy this right now"? No, it sold out in a few hours. 


Your mistake here is you are comparing an item with ample supply like the Xbox One, to an item that is having supply issues like the PS4. No, you don't set a sign outside because you have a shipment of PS4's because it might be the only shipment of PS4's you get for 3-4 weeks and there is no point. Not only does a supply constrained item not NEED a sign, but then you run the risk of the sign being up and you don't actually have any PS4's. I experienced this at a few retailers over the holidays where they had signs in the electronics sections for both consoles and didn't have either in stock and overheard a lot of pissed soccer Mom's.

Impulse buys are a huge part of retail, especially during the holidays and tax return season. This is just another area of retail you clearly don't understand. You contradict yourself here too, why would anyone who "wants" a PS4 go into the store and decide on a whim just because they are out of PS4's that they will get an Xbox One instead? Unless, of course, like I said, people are fickle about what they purchase. And if someone is going in determined to get a PS4, are they going to be more likely to get an Xbox One instead if they see a stack of 60 or however many you said? That would just make most people wait.

The cherry on top of your retail insight is comparing online to real world that you actually see. That is, of course, completely disregarding the fact that the PS4 is supply constrained. Nothing more really needs to said here lol.



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last week my best buy had 24 ps4's. I went there today and they were all sold out and they had 20 xbox one's and a few wiiu's. True story bro.



PS4 now in stock in Canada at bestbuy and futureshop.

http://www.zoolert.com/ca/videoconsoles/playstation-4/trackers/