Do you need me to speel it out? if not for hardware we would still be playing pong. Bigger worlds, better AI, interconnectiviy, graphics, physics, effects, immersion, sound, onine features. more advancements in every area. Not to mention gives devs more freedom to do things they simply could not before.

I guess wii nun chucks had zero to do with wii's success? Thats hardware allowing software to do new things.

Would wii have been a success if the hardware that allowed motion not been implemented? It matters..a lot.

Hardware advances allowed things liek Ds to exist. Without hardware 3d, and small lcd screens and tech getting smaller ds doesn't exist.

How can hardware limit dev creativity when all "creative" games today are indie games? Or when SuperMarioGalaxy was a more "creative" game than 99% of all 360 an d PS3 games combined?

Creativity knows no boundaries. If you know creative ways to find solutions to your hardware limitation then you automatically know how to make creative games. You either are creative or not. And if you are hardware does not matter because you will find a way to make it work. (I am not talking about running skyrim on Gameboy here... but about having sufficient hardware ressources and using them)

This is a one sided view. Also not all creativity is indies please. hardware and software have to work together, without one the other doesn't exist. The notion that one of them doesn;t matter is utterly foolish.

Would wii have been a success if the hardware that allowed motion not been implemented? It matters..a lot.

Hardware advances allowed things like Ds to exist. Without hardware 3d, and small lcd screens and tech getting smaller ds doesn't exist.

If hardware didnt matter we'd still be playing PONG.

what is it about ? why cant you get what u want from zelda why others get a more grown up visual zelda.

Why are you using the wii as an example lol, read the first post:

I often hear arguements like "it's not the hardware it's what you do with it" which is so fucking stupid and backwards and only said to damage control for Nintendo when the only reason Nintendo makes underpowered systems is to generate more profit (which they don't even need) at the cost of limiting the creativity of their devs. There is no one way gamers benefit from this shit.

He's not talking about different hardware that allowed motion control, he's very strictly talking about graphical power only, and other things that come with a stronger gpu/cpu. 

Ok fine... games have evolved with advanced hardware, we are not playing pong anymore, we have transited to 3d graphics that had allowed to new possibilities, but now?

What are the new possibilities with this generation?

So the wii doesn't fit your argument, so you downplay it.... Sorry hardware matters a lot, saying otherwise is foolish.

Its not just motion you ignored the rest of my post. Without hardware advances, handhleds dont ecxist, motion doesn't. Bigger worlds, better games, ai, effects, online connectivity, more immersion.

OPne cannot exist without the other, saying one is not important is piure fantasy.

Cost of owning a fully functional Wii U for six years: $300
Cost of owning a fully functional PS4 for six years: $700

Yes, Nintendo's strategy generates more profit, that's right. For the sake of thoroughness, XBO costs $860 over a six-year period.

Hardware matters but software is more important. I like what Nintendo does, to say that having that mentality is being cultured, the same could be argued about your hardware mentality, your cultured!

As a gamer, I don't care about specs of a system as much as i care about how much I enjoy the games. If I cared about hardware so much, like others pointed out, I would buy a bad ass pc. I bought all 3 consoles because I LOVE video games and appreciate what all three offer me in content.

Why worry about someone else enjoying a weaker system? And why consider them cultured?

Not everyone thinks and feels the same about everything. Many people have just as great of an experience playing video games on Wii U as they do on Ps4 and X1. If anything you sound very narrow minded only focusing on hardware innovation being high specs.