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I'm pretty sure the attach rate of Super Mario 3D World is higher than the Galaxies. Which is normal considering the install base is smaller and with fewer good games out there.

That Knack outsells Super Mario 3D World in the UK says a lot more about the tastes of the British if you ask me. Quite strange considering a lot of good tv shows, movies and music come from that little island.



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FrancisNobleman said:
Lol @ people thinking that a mediocre piece of trash could outsell a mainline IP from the House of Mario


@Razordragon case in point. 



wii u is still doomed.



Samus Aran said:
chris_wing said:

Well, it was the UK only where Knack outsold Mario2.5World, & it happened again that Knack is once again outselling Mario the week ending dec 28th in the UK apparently.

 

People sayng "Flop" & "Bomb" where refering to the fact that Mario had little affect in boosting Wii U console sales.  Mario could sell 5 million in the next week, but if no new consoles sell, then was it a system mover?  A system mover is what Nintendo needs & what people said Mario would be, but it seems to have had little affect in that department.

If SSB & MK don't prove to be huge system sellers then The Wii U is cooked.

Mario is a 2.5D game in the same way GTA V is a top down 2D game. A bad and overrated one at that, but apparently always scores super high on Metacritic lol.

Anyway, Mario 3D platformers have never been huge system sellers. They never have huge openingweeks like some games on the PS3/Xbox360(most of which aren't very good at all like Fifa and CoD). They sell well in the long run. Wii U doesn't need one good game, but multiple good games like Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros 4, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Zelda, 2D Mario games, etc

Right, since Pikmin 3, Sonic Lost World, Mario 3D World, Lego City, Zelda WW HD, TW101, & two 2d New Mario/Luigi games have created SO much demand for the Wii U.  It's down to the big two games coming out next year, if they don't reverse the Wii U's situation dramaticaly then yes, the Wii U is cooked & a new Zelda in 2016 won't have any effect since the system will be on life support at that point.  Honestly if that is what happens than Zelda may just be pushed to what ever platform Nintendo choose to develope for next.



chris_wing said:
Samus Aran said:
chris_wing said:

Well, it was the UK only where Knack outsold Mario2.5World, & it happened again that Knack is once again outselling Mario the week ending dec 28th in the UK apparently.

 

People sayng "Flop" & "Bomb" where refering to the fact that Mario had little affect in boosting Wii U console sales.  Mario could sell 5 million in the next week, but if no new consoles sell, then was it a system mover?  A system mover is what Nintendo needs & what people said Mario would be, but it seems to have had little affect in that department.

If SSB & MK don't prove to be huge system sellers then The Wii U is cooked.

Mario is a 2.5D game in the same way GTA V is a top down 2D game. A bad and overrated one at that, but apparently always scores super high on Metacritic lol.

Anyway, Mario 3D platformers have never been huge system sellers. They never have huge openingweeks like some games on the PS3/Xbox360(most of which aren't very good at all like Fifa and CoD). They sell well in the long run. Wii U doesn't need one good game, but multiple good games like Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros 4, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Zelda, 2D Mario games, etc

Right, since Pikmin 3, Sonic Lost World, Mario 3D World, Lego City, Zelda WW HD, TW101, & two 2d New Mario/Luigi games have created SO much demand for the Wii U.  It's down to the big two games coming out next year, if they don't reverse the Wii U's situation dramaticaly then yes, the Wii U is cooked & a new Zelda in 2016 won't have any effect since the system will be on life support at that point.  Honestly if that is what happens than Zelda may just be pushed to what ever platform Nintendo choose to develope for next.

I said good games. Sonic Lost World isn't exclusive and is horrible like every Sonic game released after the Dreamcast. Zelda Wind Waker is a remake and not a new and original game. TW101 is average and a niche game. The two 2D Mario/Luigi games are lifeless rehashes and are quite honestly not very good. I said GOOD games. 

Anyway, the only reason I included the 2D Mario games is because they always sell like hotcakes. Who knows how big the sales would be if they actually put some effort into them and make a unique 2.5D Mario platformer with a lot of interaction between fore- and background. They also need a new art style and better graphics. 



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drake4 said:
theshonen8899 said:
I don't believe the comparison was made to say that Knack would do better in lifetime sales. I believe the comparison was made to say that a game as horrible as Knack was even able to top Mario on launch week. Mario games normally sell over half a million on launch week in the US. 3D World only did 150k in the US. That's not saying anything about the quality of the game (I have it and I love it), but it's reflective of the grim situation the Wii U is in.


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Indeed that is the point.



Making an indie game : Dead of Day!

History will remember knack as a cobblestone on the path to Mushroom Kingdom.



They grow up so fast :,)



Knack is doing pretty bad given there are few options on the PS4 and that game was hyped.

I found it funny people were boasting about Knack in the UK. It accounted for a small number of sales and we all knew Mario was going to outperform it down the road.



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Compared to the UK, continental Europe loves the Wii U and SM3DW. While the UK represented over half of all XBO sales and about 28% of all PS4 sales in Europe for the week ending the 14th, it accounted for only about one-sixth of all Wii U sales. The Wii U has had much better holiday sales growth outside of the UK than in it. The Wii U doesn't just sell better on the continent but also compares much better to other systems. If you subtract UK sales, you get sales of 44,725 units for the Wii U in the region for the week ending the 14th vs. 33,714 units for the XBO, 125,230 for the PS4, 43,937 for the 360, and 141,520 for the PS3. If the Brits bought systems in proportion to the rest of Europe, the Wii U may have sold twice what it did during the aforementioned week, and while Sony would still dominate, the Wii U would be outselling any Xbox system in the region.

SM3DW also had a better start and stronger legs in France and Germany than in the UK despite those markets being smaller than the British one. While SM3DW is only selling as well as Knack in the UK (both have sold about 45k copies), in France and Germany SM3DW is selling as good or better than anything on the PS4 except FIFA 14. So far, continental Europe has bought about 200k copies of Mario but only 130k copies of Knack.