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Why Do People Act Like Sony (Computer Entertainment) Doesn't Have Financial Problems?

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superhippy420 said:
RenCutypoison said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

When the PS3 launched they had everything against them and still managed to turn it around, now with the PS4 they have everything going for them there is almost no way for them not to do good this gen.


/thread


The way for them to not do good this gen is to move 90 - 100 million consoles (which bring in no profit) and then have terrible 1st party software sales like the PS3 had.   PS3's 1st party software levels are only 20 million better then the Gamecube's, with about twice as many games.  They turned the PS3 console sales arround but then the  only games people bought were COD,FIFA, and GTA.  


So they failed one gen after domintaing 2. Still 66% oversuccess. And the no-profit part with the yen inflation is quite undestandable, they couldn't see it coming, nobody could.



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Nintentacle said:
KingKazuma34 said:
Well because not only is the PS3 making money now, but they are already making profit off the PS4 and it has not even been a month since launch.

Today is the one month mark, actually.

Not entirely since it was released on the 29th for us in Europe.



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Metallicube said:

Shhh quiet you! Sony is perfect in all ways and can do no wrong. PS3 will continue to sell millions every year from now till eternity and end up selling 100 billion units and PS4 will take out Nintendo and MS and take over the world!

I really can't stand posts like this.



RenCutypoison said:
superhippy420 said:
RenCutypoison said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

When the PS3 launched they had everything against them and still managed to turn it around, now with the PS4 they have everything going for them there is almost no way for them not to do good this gen.


/thread


The way for them to not do good this gen is to move 90 - 100 million consoles (which bring in no profit) and then have terrible 1st party software sales like the PS3 had.   PS3's 1st party software levels are only 20 million better then the Gamecube's, with about twice as many games.  They turned the PS3 console sales arround but then the  only games people bought were COD,FIFA, and GTA.  


So they failed one gen after domintaing 2. Still 66% oversuccess. And the no-profit part with the yen inflation is quite undestandable, they couldn't see it coming, nobody could.

So that makes it ok?   

The post you said /thread to was utterly irrelevant.  Indeed the thread is pointless.  SCE is neither financially unstable or financially stable as it isnt a company.  Its a division.  This is just one of those financial discussions by people who know too little about financials to have the discussion in the first place.



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Wanderlei said:
Sony are a finical wreck and will be lucky to last the PS4 life span.

Sony Loses $2.2 Billion in Market Value After Forecast Cut
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-01/sony-loses-2-2-billion-in-market-value-after-hirai-forecast-cut.html


and now what does the forcast say after one of the biggest selling console launches in the history of video games!.



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The well being and profitability of SCE was sacrificed to win the format war.
I don't know if it was worth it or not.

But most know if not for the massive BR costs PS3 would have spanked the 360 and out done the wii, given how well its done with all the pricing disadvantages.

Looking at how well PS4 and PS3 are doing. No need to worry about SCE.



Wanderlei said:
Sony are a finical wreck and will be lucky to last the PS4 life span.

Sony Loses $2.2 Billion in Market Value After Forecast Cut
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-01/sony-loses-2-2-billion-in-market-value-after-hirai-forecast-cut.html


as i said they need to lose thier tv and PC departments badly, and need to start making new movies people actually want to watch.  not sequals of shitty movies, or remakes but actual good movies.  Bravia tvs are way to expensive for the small to no advantage they give over thier compeititors, when best buy is selling a REFURBISHED 46" bravia tv 1080p and its only 60hz for 850$ and vizio makes the same size tv thats got similar specs new not refurbished for 400$ which you can see why thier tv buisness is doing horrific.  now i get vizio isnt in the same class as sony or samsung but its not like thats a high end tv.   thier pcs are in the same exact boat, overpriced when compared to similarly spec'd HPs and Toshiba's



Wanderlei said:
oniyide said:
prayformojo said:
Nintentacle said:
prayformojo said:
Nintentacle said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

When the PS3 launched they had everything against them and still managed to turn it around, now with the PS4 they have everything going for them there is almost no way for them not to do good this gen.

Even if PS4 is the fastest selling console in history, it doesn't make sense to ingore how financially unsuccessful the PS3 was and pretend it was a huge financial success because it sold 80 million. I can understand why the "journalist" do it though. Since It's mostly used in negative Nintendo articles, Nintendo fanboys will keep going back to the website to see if they put up more negative Nintendo articles. It's sort of like what YouTube trolls do to get views.


The only people who care about how "financially successful" a console is are stock holders and excuse makers. Everyone else cares about total units sold. Right or wrong, it's how this whole thing works.

What do you see on the front page of vgchartz? A graph showing which is making the most revenue? Or a graph showing which consoles sold the most units?

They have a graph showing hardware sales because It's a sales website.


....and because that's what people actually CARE about.


not only people, but game devs and publishers as they are the ones putting games on systems and care about how much consoles are actually out their and not how much money they make


Its relevant when the parent company goes belly up and can no longer support the platform, which is the exact direction Sony is headed.

with the best selling launch console of all time? LMAO tell you what when they go belly up then you can call me. Until then, you are nothing but a Sony hater.



Fully agree with this. Didn't the PS3 launch cost Sony billions in development, and billions more with the loss on the price cut? The amount of layoffs, stock drops, and fact that they had to sell their HQ to stay profitable shows the PS3 was an embarrassment, both financially and for gamers, since the Cell processor and divided RAM made practically every 3rd party game perform like crap.

This gen, Nintendo will have to do what Sony did last gen; make more 1st party titles. Quite simply, the only reason the PS3 sold moderately in its first few years was because of it being a relatively cheap Blu-Ray player. Sony doesn't really have anything special in regards to media this time. Everyone has blu-ray, everyone has a device to stream wifi.



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KingdomHeartsFan said:

When the PS3 launched they had everything against them and still managed to turn it around, now with the PS4 they have everything going for them there is almost no way for them not to do good this gen.


nailed it