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SvennoJ said:
DarthVolod said:

I tend to like the AI in the Deus Ex series. Deus Ex HR AI in particular was quite good. It made my stealth playthrus quite challenging, and I never felt overpowered even with the augments. Each room/area required planning and strategy which is what a true stealth game should aspire to make the player do ... if you can just run through every section plowing through enemies then it is not much of a stealth game.

Not quite sure how they handle on an action playthru with guns blazing though.

That's not really AI though, more to do with enemy placement and patrol routes. The AI starts when they detect you and the flushing out part wasn't any more intelligent then other games. Simply lay low until they settle back into their routines, who cares your buddy just disappeared 1 minute ago. And it was too easy to pick them off one by one after they start searching, coming around the corner one by one.

Dishnonerd's AI and enemy placement was a bit more interesting, although they also easily fall for the bottleneck trap. As well as The last of us. It seems rushing one by one to a pile of bodies is a good strategy in all games...


Yeah that is the problem with pretty much all stealth games really ... but maybe it is not a problem at all, but rather just a effective strategy. I would like to see more permanent consequences for being caught in a stealth game. This should be done in such a way, however, that the player doesn't become frustrated and decides to simply go back to save point or restart a level.

Maybe, you could have guards take unpredictable routes when they have been alerted once ... in pretty much all stealth games guards never usually follow you into vents/tough to reach spaces, but maybe there is a chance (as in they will not always do it) they will explore vents or flood the vents with gas or something when they have gone to high alert. Maybe they switch to heavier weapons when a threat after one of their buddies is taken out. You could have guards lockdown certain doors or sections of a level which had offered a short cut to a goal prior to the lockdown. These are just some ideas, but, like I said, they need to be implemented in such a way that they add value to the experience rather than simply make the whole thing frustrating and annoying.

Getting back to Deus Ex HR, the AI may not have been perfect, but they aren't total idiots either. Their ability to see/detect you felt realistic, and they are very good shots with high damage weapons that down you in a few hits on the highest difficulty (which made getting caught something you really didn't want to happen ... kind of like in the Thief series).

Like you said, future stealth games (and games in general) need to find a way around the slow and steady approach of the player where you can just pick off otherwise difficult enemies one by one as their buddies get alerted for a few minutes and then proceed to go on like nothing happened rinse/repeat. You can do this in most stealth games and even most FPS campaigns.



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Man f zero Gx was so awesome, hope they make a sequel



I remember that the original Brother In Arms struck me with a very reliable AI. People protected themselves. They used combat techniques. They understood danger. You could give orders and the soldiers wouldn't carry them if they were suicide orders, just like charging an stationary machine-gun. It was a long time since I last played it, but I think it was brilliant for a Xbox/ps2 game.



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DarthVolod said:

I tend to like the AI in the Deus Ex series. Deus Ex HR AI in particular was quite good. It made my stealth playthrus quite challenging, and I never felt overpowered even with the augments. Each room/area required planning and strategy which is what a true stealth game should aspire to make the player do ... if you can just run through every section plowing through enemies then it is not much of a stealth game.

Not quite sure how they handle on an action playthru with guns blazing though.


Really? It was almost as bad as Assassin's Creed to me.



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For me it was The Jackals in Halo: Reach. They were so dang sneaky and kept moving out of my range. Then if I move, they would sneak down this hill. It's towards the end of the game, but I felt almost like there were people controlling it. Everything I did the responded in a way that I had trouble hitting them. They would sneak out of range, move when I had them on a sniper - just as I am about to shoot.

Them, not so much. They didn't have trouble hitting me.



 

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SvennoJ said:
I agree with F.E.A.R, that's about the last time AI surprised me after Half-life.
Although there are still plenty surprises in the area of 'WTF are they doing'

The last of us had a nice balance between enemy awareness and playability, plus hilarious wtf moments for the friendly AI.

Best AI opposition I've had this gen was Tokyo Jungle's world AI. Ruthless kick you when your down while holding a shining carrot in the distance. Leading to the most epic saves and tragic failures. It probably was just a randomized engine though.

I'd agree with this. FEAR and Half Life are really the only games where the AI has stuck out.

Having said that, the AI in Far Cry 1 was exceptionally "good", but to the point of being unrealistic and destroying immersion. They didn't appear intelligent, they just had superhuman senses normally reserved for the Marvel universe, lol.

This gen, Killzone 2 & 3 weren't bad, Last of Us was fairly good, but otherwise nothing really sticks out. 



Another example was the cmobat AI from Skyward Sword, they actually reacted to your movements really good.



curl-6 said:
think-man said:
Killzone 2 or The Last Of Us.


2 but not 3? Did the AI get worse?

I just remember it was good for its time.