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Alby_da_Wolf on 14 October 2013

I'm for evolutionism, but creationism could be right for USA: after all, evolution can't explain Dubya, Miley Cyrus or that crappy trilogy of Star Wars prequels.



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Kasz216 on 14 October 2013

I always thought the first option was creationism.



Kasz216 on 14 October 2013

Also, as for evolution. What's with all the talk of college? I was taught that shit in like the 4th grade.  Not very complex stuff.

Also,



nightsurge on 14 October 2013

What are your thoughts on the accepted fact that science does not PROVE anything? Even my world renowned college biology and chemistry professors would start out their semesters with that tid-bit of information.



dsgrue3 on 14 October 2013
Augen said:

I think the challenge is too often evolution via natural selection is not conveyed well to people creating misunderstandings.

It is not surprising to me that people within the field that study it daily tend to simply understand the process rather than putting in any super natural elements.

The evidence is so overwhelming and has mountains of research over the centuries in support of it. The big question is why this upsets people more than, say, gravity which to me is a much harder thing to wrap ones head around yet no one counters it with a super natural explanation.

For some reason the notion that homo sapiens sapiens (modern humans) are not "special" or separate from the rest of life is upsetting to people and challenges teachings and traditions within cultures. So, we have this battle of sorts for mind share because they feel threatened by this reality.

My hope is that people understand that understanding life and how it works benefits us greatly and clinging to old thinking such as astrology or alchemy would be as counter productive as creationism.

I cannot begin to explain how much I agree with this post.

Max King of the Wild said:
Locknuts said:
Not sure why people's beliefs might bother others. Then again I don't live in America so I'm not sure how this affects those who don't believe. Are non-believers persecuted somehow?


It doesnt bother anyone the OP is just very intolerant person. No one get persecuted and if anyone really does it would be the religious people

This is now the 3rd off topic post in an attempt to insult me. I'm fine with you posting in my thread, but stay on topic. 

Kane1389 said:
Is it Old Earth creationism or Young Earth creationism? There is a difference

YEC, see the OP chart. Those who believe god created humans in their current form. 



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dsgrue3 on 14 October 2013
nightsurge said:
What are your thoughts on the accepted fact that science does not PROVE anything? Even my world renowned college biology and chemistry professors would start out their semesters with that tid-bit of information.

I have to question your motives for bringing this up, but I certainly agree.

It offers probabilities and/or debunks.



Max King of the Wild on 14 October 2013
Kasz216 said:
I always thought the first option was creationism.


It is.



Locknuts on 14 October 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
Locknuts said:
Not sure why people's beliefs might bother others. Then again I don't live in America so I'm not sure how this affects those who don't believe. Are non-believers persecuted somehow?


It doesnt bother anyone the OP is just very intolerant person. No one get persecuted and if anyone really does it would be the religious people

Fair enough. I'll avoid his threads in future.



Max King of the Wild on 14 October 2013
dsgrue3 said:

I cannot begin to explain how much I agree with this post.

Max King of the Wild said:

It doesnt bother anyone the OP is just very intolerant person. No one get persecuted and if anyone really does it would be the religious people

This is now the 3rd off topic post in an attempt to insult me. I'm fine with you posting in my thread, but stay on topic. 

All of my posts have been on topic especially the one you replied to



Augen on 14 October 2013
nightsurge said:
What are your thoughts on the accepted fact that science does not PROVE anything? Even my world renowned college biology and chemistry professors would start out their semesters with that tid-bit of information.


This is correct.  

At best science deals in probabilities based on evidence and research.  In this case the study of life and undertsanding how it develops and why there is such diversity.  The leading theory for the past century has been evolution via natural selection.  The probability of it being a law edges up in percentages every year as more evidence pours in all around the world from studies.  I would say we are in the 90%+ probability range because of things such as fossill record, mapping of DNA and observations of various forms of life.

The issue is when a counter theory has 0% evidence.  Nothing presented that can be replicated.  That theory should be not be given the same level of acceptance and respect within any scientific community.  If tommorow someone actually demonstrated a new understanding of reality and life then we should pursue it with greta ferver.

In summation, I agree with th enotion to always experiement and push boundaries of human understanding.  However, to accept things simply due to human desire is counter to scientific progress.  It should always equal and objective in its standards.