The thinking level of some users in this forum is baffling... anyway, lex sed lex.
| NiKKoM said: Hard to believe that Rockstar would make a mistake like that.. A manager of the artist probably agreed to the 4K and is scared of losing his job by telling the truth |
I have to agree with this. It seems strange that R* would make such a mistake as they have people that go out and get the license to include the music. I higly doubt R* felt that this guys music was something they needed to include to make the game better and try to include it on the sly. I am wondering if this guy knows who owns his music or the distribution and inclusion in order media. This could be one of those situations where the guy stuff was sold by the label or publishers.
Rockstar probably did make the mistake. I highly doubt the legal team they have talks with the programmers every day. Most likely it was included by mistake or someone assuming that nobody would say no to them and its inclusion wouldn't make a difference because permission was only a matter of time.
You guys do know this is the same Rockstar that started the whole hot coffee scandal right? They included something in the game that shouldn't have been there. Not the first time, not the last.
However the guy is lucky because the exposure he would have gotten could have boosted his career. Now a good portion of those 20 million will never listen to his music again. Its bad press now and while it will get his name out there, its not going to get him bonus points with the group he wants to be popular with.
Why should the hot coffee mod not be in GTA? because some people have no life and whine about sex in games? Its a game were you can kill people. In some GTA games you could even shot their heads off. You are killing innocent people with fire rockets cars and whatnot and you are killing cops that try to protect others.
People should get over nudity and sex without it none of us would exist.
| Goatseye said: The thinking level of some users in this forum is baffling... anyway, lex sed lex. |
Let's just say he won't get what he's asking for.
happydolphin said:
Let's just say he won't get what he's asking for. |
He sure will. And a Cease and desist order is the appropriate legal means for initiating action in this sort of situation. Why should it matter if he's a little nobody and GTA is the biggest selling game of the year? if R* done wrong then they need to put things right or be forced to put things right. Cease and desist is the correct first step along that path.
If it turns out R* didn't pay him royalties then recalling all unsold copies is a legitimate decision for the courts to make until the matter of compensation is sorted out. And if it goes to the courts then they might decide R* has to pay him 0.5c (0.25c per song) for every copy sold, which would net him $100K. Which would cover both compensatory and punitive damages. Not to mention the cost of lawyers etc to deal with the case.
Personally I think the guy was being greedy and unreasonable in turning down $4K because along with the exposure that's a pretty good deal for a largely unknown rapper. But that's nothing compared to R* going ahead and using the songs without an agreement. I bet all y'all would be looking for a nice pay day if R* or Infinity Ward sent you a letter saying they wanted to use 2 of your songs in GTA or CoD.
R* will either pay him ~$10K to go away or will wave a signed agreement in his face from his record label.
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binary solo said:
He sure will. And a Cease and desist order is the appropriate legal means for initiating action in this sort of situation. Why should it matter if he's a little nobody and GTA is the biggest selling game of the year? if R* done wrong then they need to put things right or be forced to put things right. Cease and desist is the correct first step along that path. If it turns out R* didn't pay him royalties then recalling all unsold copies is a legitimate decision for the courts to make until the matter of compensation is sorted out. And if it goes to the courts then they might decide R* has to pay him 0.5c (0.25c per song) for every copy sold, which would net him $100K. Which would cover both compensatory and punitive damages. Not to mention the cost of lawyers etc to deal with the case. Personally I think the guy was being greedy and unreasonable in turning down $4K because along with the exposure that's a pretty good deal for a largely unknown rapper. But that's nothing compared to R* going ahead and using the songs without an agreement. I bet all y'all would be looking for a nice pay day if R* or Infinity Ward sent you a letter saying they wanted to use 2 of your songs in GTA or CoD. R* will either pay him ~$10K to go away or will wave a signed agreement in his face from his record label. |
Okay, that's how the american legal system works. I think it's stupid honestly because there's no point causing rockstar to spend a ridiculous amount of money recalling the most successful game of the year for this guy's song. I understand it's a formality in the american legal system, so maybe he isn't a retard after all, maybe the american legal system is shot.
Machiavellian said:
I have to agree with this. It seems strange that R* would make such a mistake as they have people that go out and get the license to include the music. I higly doubt R* felt that this guys music was something they needed to include to make the game better and try to include it on the sly. I am wondering if this guy knows who owns his music or the distribution and inclusion in order media. This could be one of those situations where the guy stuff was sold by the label or publishers. |
They wanted his music because he is a Cali based artist.
He was also hot back in the day for the other users in here who dont know. He wasn't nearly as big as somebody like Snoop Dogg but he was more relevant back in the day than he is now
happydolphin said:
Okay, that's how the american legal system works. I think it's stupid honestly because there's no point causing rockstar to spend a ridiculous amount of money recalling the most successful game of the year for this guy's song. I understand it's a formality in the american legal system, so maybe he isn't a retard after all, maybe the american legal system is shot. |
Do not even believe for a second that this will happen. That is just one of those things you throw in there to make sure that they know he is serious.
He just wants more money. He most likely full well knows that GTA sells like crazy and generates millions so he probably thought that he would get like 15 or 20k for the songs and probably felt disrespected when they said only 4k lol
happydolphin said:
He's a moron for asking for a cease and desist. Who does he think he is? This is the fastest-selling game this year, is he retarded? As for the patches, I realized the shortcomings of the suggestion when I posted it, but it's much more sensible than asking for a fucking recall. |
Not at all. A recall is more secure as far as his rights are concerned... and will cost Rockstar an assload of money.
It is the correct call... and he did it specifically because of the immense cost.
Which will require Rockstar to pay him quite a bit of money to avoid this.
The fact that this is the fastest selling game of the year is all the more reason he should of did it. You don't let the powerful get away with shit because their powerful. To be quite honest, he's being magnamous by giving them 14 days.
He could walk into a court right now and get a cease and desist eaisly. He clearly expects them to cave to his demands pretty quickly...
and he's probably right.
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