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kupomogli said:
irstupid said:
Oh and I love how people try and argue that Nintendo fans should accept this or try to be reasonable about it and so on.

Could you imagine the outrage if say the PS3 version and PS4 version were announced to have no DLC.

It would be like the DRM xbox one fiascol. Be twitters aflame, every gaming website in an uproar, forums floading with 100 identical topics bitching, and so on.

Yet it happens to Nintendo and we get berated for having an opinion.

Also, I don't know about everyone else, but I'm pointing out that while there isn't DLC now, doesn't mean there could be in the future.  There's no berating Nintendo fans there.  If Ubisoft thinks they'll make money from it, they'll port it.  Nothing is set in stone.  It's DLC after all, not like it comes on disc, unless it's a Capcom game.

What was the point of Ubisoft announcing it now?  

Why not wait until after the game is out for a week and then announce which systems get dlc.  THis isn't day 1 dlc is it?  i imagine it comes out a month later at earliest.

I highly doubt anyone who wasn't planning on getting AC4 will now get AC4 cause dlc was announced.  

DLC announced will probably lose more purchasers than gain.  

Now on to the Wii U version.  This announcement before release could hugely impact sales.  As most any intelligent person knows.  Most if not ALL Wii U owners also own probably a PS3 or 360 or have a PC that can play this game.  So now you are telling them they will be missing out on future content for their version.  THey may switch versions.  



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Metrium said:
Angelv577 said:
Metrium said:


Their is around 4mil WiiUs out there, how many of these 4mil WiiU owners also have a PS3and/orXbox360? Probably alot. I'd go as far as to say that it's probably half of them if not more. With the WiiU version offering less but costing the same price, why would any of these 2mil multiplat owners buy it on WiiU? They will all buy it on their other consoles. So out of these 4mil, take away half of them that will obviously buy it on other consoles thx to Ubisoft, and also take away those who are legimately not interested in the game, how many sales are left?

It's not that WiiU owners don't buy 3rd party games, it's that WiiU owners who most of them are multiplat owners buy 3rd party games on their other consoles for obvious reasons provided by those 3rd party publishers. Me for example, I'm a WiiU owner. Will Warner Bros get a WiiU version of Batman Origins from me? No, because I preordered the limited edition on PS3 cause WiiU not only did'nt have the limited edition as far as a know but also lacks the entire multiplayer mode. They will still get a sale from a WiiU owner but not the WiiU version since they are offering a subpar version. But offcaurse me buying it does'nt matter cause WB will obviously bitch and moan about WiiU owners not buying their games neverless.

Missing DLC it's not the same thing as missing a multiplayer mode, missing features or bad frame rate.  It's the same full game in every console with the same gameplay and probably almost the same performance.  The reality is there's is a minority who really buy DLC for games.  If peope really choose the ps3/ps4/360/one version over Wii U version, it would be for whatever reason except DLC, so if the game is destined to flop on Wii U, with or without DLC, it won't make a difference.  And if wii U owner would keep making excuses in every chance they have then don't complain when developers cease once and for all to develop for Wii U.  First years of ps3 owners were similar, always having the worst version of games with badly frame rate and ps3 owners still buy the games and look at now, 360/ps3 version looking almost the same.  The choice is simple, buy the version or don't have any version at all.


The difference with the WiiU and PS3 is that in 2007 ppl who had PS3 most of them was their only console. PS3 was so expensive, their competition the X360 was also quite expensive and only 1year old. Meanwhile with WiiU today, everyone has a PS3 or xbox360 since they are all cheaper and so old now. So ppl were buying PS3 games cause they did'nt have a choice, if the better versions of all games on ps3 were also available on other consoles that had a combined of 150mil units I doubt alot of Ps3 owners would have bought those games on PS3. Don't give me the argument that Ps3 gamers are better suporters of their consoles cause if that was the case games would'nt sell better on Xbox360.

And DLC does matter when their is nothing else to distinguish the versions. When I have two platforms available, both have the same price, both have the same content on the disc (altho ps3 has 1hour more) but only ONE of the two have DLC, I have no reasons what so ever to chose the WiiU version. I would be paying exactly the same amount of money for what is less, even if what is less does'nt matter to me it's still less. I almost never buy DLC, but who knows? What if I love the game way more than I thought I would and want more? What if they announce 1 piece of DLC that I must have cause I think it's awsome? I can't know for sure, so between paying 60$ for a disc with the option or 60$ for the same disc but w/o the option the choice is simple since despite not caring for DLC the WiiU version gives me nothing to balance the lack of DLC leaving a hole. If the game was 50$ instead of 60$ then now I would say that it evens things out but it's not.

You talk like it should be normal for ppl who have choices to choose the option of paying the same amount of money for less. But it's not.


1 part  bolded:  if this is the case, then there's no hope for good Wii U third party sales.  Additionally, how do you know with fact that Wii U owners are multiplatform owner and not the hardcore nintendo only fans? because as far as I know, there's a huge nintendo community that only buy nintendo consoles so it could go either way, i don't know, this looks like another excuse for mediocre multiplatform sales.

2 part  bolded: No,they weren't better supporter as a whole but still bought the games decently enough to keep the platform for getting multiplatform games despite experiencing a huge amount of hate from developers or you forgot those days when ps3 "were "praised" for been a nightmare to develop for.  

3 part bolded:  And here I always thought the unique gamepad gameplay was enough to distinguish from every other versions.  You would realize what I'm talking about when ps4 and One releases.  Despite ps4 being cheaper and having 1 hour of exclusive gameplay compare to xbox one, i can assure you that AC4 on xbox one will sell much better than Wii U version considering that both platforms(ps4/one) are starting from scratch.  But i know what your thoughts gonna be, they will be xbox one only owners so they will not have other choice but to buy it, but what about the choice of not buying anything at all? that only apply to Wii U owner?.  I get it, Wii U is only worth it as a secondary console from your point of view, that's is why the majority are multiplatform owners according to you.

If the gameplay is the same as every other versions, the unique gamepad gameplay should be enough to overcome some missed DLC that i know a lot of the gamers don't buy anyway because buying a game for just bragging rights even though they know for sure that they won't be buying the DLC, it's just hilarious.  But i guess this is just a matter of opinion and nothing more.



kitler53 said:

I also see people missing the point.

It seems to be an unwritten rule that whenever a multiplat comes out, the Wii U version -needs- to have something, anything at all, that the other versions do have.

"Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut offers a full slate of Wii U GamePad features including touch-screen hacking, interactive map editing, augmented sniping, grenade throwbacks and many other neural hub enhancements. Along with in-depth Miiverse integration, the Director's Cut also provides access to developer commentaries and in-game guides."  source.

nintendo fans on this site like to claim their all about the gameplay and innovations and think that sony and microsoft are leading the industry to ruin...  but all you do is whine about the disparity on features you supposedly hate instead of celebrating the features you supposedly value.

I would pre-order Deus Ex inmediatly if the price difference was smaller, 10 dollars for exclusive extra stuff that improves the gameplay, count me in!, but 20 is just too much. I already bought Batman: Arkham Origin, no online but 10 dollars less, I am ok with that.

The trade-off should feel fair, if we get a gimped version reduce price, you will not allow for DLC, add a Link skin for the character (or somthing along those lines) if the trade-off is fair people will complain a lot less



If Ubi was smart, they'd add this skin as DLC. AC4 would fly off the shelves.



Mr Khan said:
biglittlesps said:
I think Wii U won't get better 3rd party sales because everybody can get even better version from PS4/Xbone or from PC for even cheap. There is nothing from Wii U to separate from other version and also its inferior version of PS4/Xbone/PC and little better than PS3/360. Nintendo should have used architecture similar to PS4/Xbone if they wanted good 3rd party support.

Like that would have worked. Nobody remembers GameCube at all, do they?

The only acceptable narrative is that third parties have it out for Nintendo. Full stop.


BS. GCN was in the time when 3rd party exclusives were the norm. It got treated just like the X-box and got those few multiplats that existed in that gen. It would be different nowadays if it had a normal architecture and comparable specs. Oh, and if it had any sort of an install base.

 

@Ubi - they are foolish. Don't want to release DLCs on Wii U? Fine. But... why reveal it before the game is out? Just stupid.

A Zelda DLC would be golden :D That would move games!



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

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irstupid said:
I hate dlc. It's usually $15 dolars for an extra 2 hours. Such a rip off. I remember the days when expansions came out for pc games that were like $15 and added 30 hours of gameplay, or insane amount of stuff.

Hate? Just ignore overpriced DLC. Eventually the DLC price will be reduced.

Just bought AC3 with every DLC + the soundtrack for 22 € on steam. The main game for 12 € + the Season Pass for 5 € (UbiShop) would be even cheaper, but I wanted the soundtrack.

A few month ago I upgraded Civ 5 for merely 2,50 € to the "Gold Edition". 



The usual chicken and egg situation: ... Wii U version sells badly -> Makes less money -> Spend less on the next Wii U version of a game -> Gimped version compared to the competition -> Wii U version sells badly ...

Who is responsible for getting out of this loop? Nintendo. Just make some deals already.



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Sounds like ubisoft is starting to cut their losses with the wii u. You can't say they didn't try though.



KylieDog said:
Just the excuse Nintendo fans need when the game fails to sell. The same fans that called CoD sales on Wii proof third parties games can sell, despite missing the DLC.

Despite it all, indeed the games managed to make a buck. (though mind you it sold 10 times less regardless)

That just reinforces the argument.

Love how oni and think-man were lapping your post up. The pattern is pretty obvious now.



They don't bring them because just like the software numbers the DLC numbers are utter shit for wiiu. No conspiracy. basically not enough ppl buy the dlc to justify the porting of them to wiiu

It's hilarious ppl are bashing ubi when they are one of the biggest supporters of the wiiu.



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