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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Penello specifies why X1vsPS4 performance difference is overstated

Turkish said:
Source is neogaf. Albert is talking bullshit as usual and gaffers are calling him out http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673713&page=5

He sure got roasted. Shouldn't have stuck his nose into the lion's den. It's a nasty place.

 

Do you or Ethoimaz have priviligies to creat threads at NEOGAF?



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Even when things are explained the blind and ignorant continue as they always have. Truth revealed to you guys is like pearls before swine. Just keep on keep'n on know-it-alls.



Lost it right here:

"• We have more memory bandwidth. 176gb/sec is peak on paper for GDDR5. Our peak on paper is 272gb/sec. (68gb/sec DDR3 + 204gb/sec on ESRAM). ESRAM can do read/write cycles simultaneously so I see this number mis-quoted."

Doesn't work that way. Even if every bit of data ran directly through the ESRAM, which it can't, due to the relatively tiny allotment, the speed of the ESRAM wouldn't be "boosted" an additional 68gb/sec by the much slower DDR3 memory.



PS4 is more powerful. Both on paper and in actual real world performance. Yes you can optimize on the Xbox One. But you can also do so on Ps4 (just pointing that out because Xbots now keep bringing that up for some reason)

Mutliplatform games will look the same as far as the eye test goes. So what difference will it make.

But PS4 is more powerful and you can twist and spin shit to mean whatever you like. Go ahead and add 8GB of ram with esram and times that by the month Xbox One comes out and yada yada so on and so forth. Whatever makes you feel better about the product you want to buy

I do enjoy reading the threads of Xbox One is almost as powerful = just as powerful = you should buy Xbox One haha.



Subie_Greg said:
PS4 is more powerful. Both on paper and in actual real world performance. Yes you can optimize on the Xbox One. But you can also do so on Ps4 (just pointing that out because Xbots now keep bringing that up for some reason)

Mutliplatform games will look the same as far as the eye test goes. So what difference will it make.

But PS4 is more powerful and you can twist and spin shit to mean whatever you like. Go ahead and add 8GB of ram with esram and times that by the month Xbox One comes out and yada yada so on and so forth. Whatever makes you feel better about the product you want to buy

I do enjoy reading the threads of Xbox One is almost as powerful = just as powerful = you should buy Xbox One haha.


Totally now if they could say "its almost as powerfull" and follow up with "and its alot cheaper" then that would make sence, but its way more expensive, its just a crazy place to start trying to win people over from. 

You would sell a car by going its almost as fast as Car X and we will only charge you more money for it!



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Xenostar said:
Subie_Greg said:
PS4 is more powerful. Both on paper and in actual real world performance. Yes you can optimize on the Xbox One. But you can also do so on Ps4 (just pointing that out because Xbots now keep bringing that up for some reason)

Mutliplatform games will look the same as far as the eye test goes. So what difference will it make.

But PS4 is more powerful and you can twist and spin shit to mean whatever you like. Go ahead and add 8GB of ram with esram and times that by the month Xbox One comes out and yada yada so on and so forth. Whatever makes you feel better about the product you want to buy

I do enjoy reading the threads of Xbox One is almost as powerful = just as powerful = you should buy Xbox One haha.


Totally now if they could say "its almost as powerfull" and follow up with "and its alot cheaper" then that would make sence, but its way more expensive, its just a crazy place to start trying to win people over from. 

You would sell a car by going its almost as fast as Car X and we will only charge you more money for it!

exactly 



Slimebeast said:
Turkish said:
Source is neogaf. Albert is talking bullshit as usual and gaffers are calling him out http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673713&page=5

He sure got roasted. Shouldn't have stuck his nose into the lion's den. It's a nasty place.

 

Do you or Ethoimaz have priviligies to creat threads at NEOGAF?


Yes, but there is no need to make a new thread, enough people called him out on his bullshit and the thread reached almost 30 pages. This guy post straight up nonsense: multi core cpu's have innefficiences with faster GPU's, memory bandwith peak performance (8gb ddr3 ram +32mb esram>>>>8gb gddr5 ram) etc



i ve got a new shocker, X360 bandwidth according to Mr Penello would be rated at an amazing 280 GB/s (256 GB/s eDRAM + 22.4 GB/s GDDR3). We don't even need a new console the X360 already have more bandwidth than the PS4 and a Geforce GTX Titan ! 

Also 6% x 1 x 12 does not equal 6% x 12 in that guy's head. Thank you Microsoft. Europe is a country according to him and he just started a new paradigm in mathematic.

Shall we continue with all the non sense and FUD ?



Turkish said:
Slimebeast said:
Turkish said:
Source is neogaf. Albert is talking bullshit as usual and gaffers are calling him out http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673713&page=5

He sure got roasted. Shouldn't have stuck his nose into the lion's den. It's a nasty place.

 

Do you or Ethoimaz have priviligies to creat threads at NEOGAF?


Yes, but there is no need to make a new thread, enough people called him out on his bullshit and the thread reached almost 30 pages. This guy post straight up nonsense: multi core cpu's have innefficiences with faster GPU's, memory bandwith peak performance (8gb ddr3 ram +32mb esram>>>>8gb gddr5 ram) etc

You can?

WoW I did not expect this after they called you out in one of the most funniest threads the internet has ever read. Great comeback!



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

DirtyP2002 said:
Turkish said:
Slimebeast said:
Turkish said:
Source is neogaf. Albert is talking bullshit as usual and gaffers are calling him out http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673713&page=5

He sure got roasted. Shouldn't have stuck his nose into the lion's den. It's a nasty place.

 

Do you or Ethoimaz have priviligies to creat threads at NEOGAF?


Yes, but there is no need to make a new thread, enough people called him out on his bullshit and the thread reached almost 30 pages. This guy post straight up nonsense: multi core cpu's have innefficiences with faster GPU's, memory bandwith peak performance (8gb ddr3 ram +32mb esram>>>>8gb gddr5 ram) etc

You can?

WoW I did not expect this after they called you out in one of the most funniest threads the internet has ever read. Great comeback!

Link?