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I find it more insulting that people with such strong thoughts about privacy waste their time complaining about Kinect rather than campaigning against their governments about protecting privacy. Its the law and not the device that's a problem so either start campaigning to your government properly or stfu on a videogame forum.



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kowenicki said:
slow69 said:


like i said before the problem are not the threats, the problem is why this threats exist, what is the reason behind them?. There should be no excuse to accept a violation of your privacy, except to those who are uneducated or paranoid.

liberal nonsense.  there has always been threats and there always will be.


I know and i am proposing a way to deal with these threats that will not invade my privacy, you on the other hand are acting like a republican in a anti-terrorism suit, paranoid much?

clasic case of double standards you want the US to invade my privacy and spy on my but you hate that Snowden did exacly the same on the US government. Just like those guys saying that Ps4 owners were paranoid because they think the government are goig to spy on them, then they defend the government by saying that we have to defend ourselfs from terrorist attacks, one has to ask, who is more paranoid?



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kowenicki said:
OdinHades said:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

 

and this one for that idiot Snowden:

"He that would live in peace and at ease must not speak all he knows or all he sees"
 

-Benjamin Franklin


Typical right wing protectionism, perhaps a stormfront poster has lost his way here. if anything snowden exposed American government's hypocrisy for the world to see. A self proclaimed model of freedom, liberty and justice isn't too examplery at all after, huh? 

A Brit defending and advocating all things American? I'm seeing a pattern here.



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kowenicki said:
slow69 said:
kowenicki said:
slow69 said:


like i said before the problem are not the threats, the problem is why this threats exist, what is the reason behind them?. There should be no excuse to accept a violation of your privacy, except to those who are uneducated or paranoid.

liberal nonsense.  there has always been threats and there always will be.


I know and i am proposing a way to deal with these threats that will not invade my privacy, you on the other hand are acting like a republican in a anti-terrorism suit, paranoid much?

clasic case of double standards you want the US to invade my privacy and spy on my but you hate that Snowden did exacly the same on the US government. Just like those guys saying that Ps4 owners were paranoid because they think the government are goig to spy on them, then they defend the government by saying that we have to defend ourselfs from terrorist attacks, one has to ask, who is more paranoid?

...and you dont see the irony in calling other paranoid all the time?


Yes thats exactly why i said it... Anyway all im demostrating is that being preocupied by terrorism is justified, but not enough to give away my right to privacy cause there are other ways to solve this issues, we need to stop doing the same things if we want different results.



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allblue said:
kowenicki said:
OdinHades said:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

 

and this one for that idiot Snowden:

"He that would live in peace and at ease must not speak all he knows or all he sees"
 

-Benjamin Franklin


Typical right wing protectionism, perhaps a stormfront poster has lost his way here. if anything snowden exposed American government's hypocrisy for the world to see. A self proclaimed model of freedom, liberty and justice isn't too examplery at all after, huh? 


where is the like button in here! we need one now!



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Yeah, let's all live in chains so the big bad terrorists can't hurt us.

They threats we face today are not justification for the Soviet-style clusterfuck of NSA.



Anfebious said:
Zkuq said:
naruball said:
Well, I guess I'm gonna be the first to agree with the OP. I may not be educated enough on this topic, but I as I see things now, I would honestly not mind complete invasion of my privacy if that meant catching serial killers, rapists, finding missing people etc. I don't know what they can do with the information they have on me, but if I have to sacrifice my privacy for the lives of others, so be it.

Can someone who is more educated on this matter explain in a few words (and with no insults, please), why they are against it? I'm keeping an open mind here.

The possibilities for misuse are vast. As long as the government is somewhat good, there's no real harm done for the most part. But if the government went really wrong, like dictatorship-wrong, you'd suddenly find terrorists in all opposition. I wouldn't be surprised if political enemies would also be found to be 'guilty' of all kinds of nasty things, thanks to these surveillance programs. Even in current situation, there's much room for misuse. Your political opponent has done something nasty in the past and you heard him talk about it? Well there goes his career. The problem is, it makes the position of those in power even stronger, in any situation. And when no one's overseeing these surveillance programs properly, it's an even greater risk.

If it was possible to install a camera in everyone's home, in every room, so that it would alert the authorities if anything suspicious was going on, would you approve of it? After all, you have nothing to hide, right?

Yeah imagine invasion of privacy in a situation like we had in Argentina years before with the Military Dictators taking the power. People couldn't do many things and had to agree with everything that the goverment said. During that time many people lost their lifes because the Military grabbed anyone that seemed suscpicious and made them "dissapear". It was horrible and back then they weren't spying on every house... Imagine that with this program. It would be a disaster. Anything you said that was wrong for them and you could have people making you "dissapear" for a message you sent a friend.



Very good point and very scary. But Internet, mobile devices and social media are also a dictator's greatest threat.



kowenicki said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
i find it scary that some people agrees with this shiet just because they have some loyalty to some brand.

its a lot like the drm stuf , instead of saying this stuff was anticonsumer some dudes agreed with it, not because they didnt care but because they needed to defend the brand.


It has nothing to do with brand loyalty and everything to do with common sense.

Do people not understand the threats we live with these days?

 

I find it scary that people mainly bitch with this because it allows them to attack a certain brand.


I am sure they do, but some of us value our privacy.

 

As for threats in the home. This is why in the US I can keep a gun in my home.



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kowenicki said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
i find it scary that some people agrees with this shiet just because they have some loyalty to some brand.

its a lot like the drm stuf , instead of saying this stuff was anticonsumer some dudes agreed with it, not because they didnt care but because they needed to defend the brand.


It has nothing to do with brand loyalty and everything to do with common sense.

Do people not understand the threats we live with these days?

 

I find it scary that people mainly bitch with this because it allows them to attack a certain brand.

 


This is a far bigger threat than any terroism oput there.

This is the kind of stuff that will stifle free speech. This is the kind of stuff that can be used against opposing political parties, or used to snowball journalist or people who speak out against the government. Heck, anyone (like snowden did) could hack it and use it for their own means(there is no safe way to protect Dtata, its all vulnerable to atacks). The terrosists could gain access to all this information and use it against us. Coupled with the abuses at the IRS, it really worries me. On top of that we currently have a domestic police agency accountable to the feds and not the people, and arming itself to the teeth, and we have the makings for an easy coupe. Yes I know a little conpsiracy theory. But all the makings are there. The abuse has already begun with the IRS, and the wiretapping of reporters. If we had any decent press left this stuff should be all over the news. Instead we get the TRayvon Zimmerman trial. Terroism in the US atleast hasn't killed that many people. If anything the biggst and worst effect of the terrorism is the allowance of the american public for these massive breaches of privacy.

 

But I agree, this isn't an MS problem, its a government problem and a a problem for each and every tech/service company