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vivster said:
JEMC said:

Surfing the web with a VR headset. I guess it has its advantages if you're watching videos or pictures, but I can't see the point for forums like ours.

It will make a lot more sense with the future generations of VR when they finally include eye tracking. Not only will that make navigation in menus and browsers great but the next step would be virtual keyboards you can use with your eyes.

The coming years and gens of VR are gonna be exciting. Not sure if we will see eye tracking in the next gen or even gen 3. but Gen 4 could be something great with Gen 5 perfecting it.

But will virtual keyboard used with eye tracking be useful for a lot of us? (people with some kind of disability could benefit greatly from it). It will still be faster to type on a keyboard.

But eye tracking on videogames, to move the camera to not only our head points, but also our eyes look, that would be great.



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JEMC said:
vivster said:

It will make a lot more sense with the future generations of VR when they finally include eye tracking. Not only will that make navigation in menus and browsers great but the next step would be virtual keyboards you can use with your eyes.

The coming years and gens of VR are gonna be exciting. Not sure if we will see eye tracking in the next gen or even gen 3. but Gen 4 could be something great with Gen 5 perfecting it.

But will virtual keyboard used with eye tracking be useful for a lot of us? (people with some kind of disability could benefit greatly from it). It will still be faster to type on a keyboard.

But eye tracking on videogames, to move the camera to not only our head points, but also our eyes look, that would be great.

Everyone who wants to use a browser or do any typing in VR will use it. It's basically inevitable. I could even see this move to smart devices for regular typing once the eye tracking is advanced enough.



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vivster said:
JEMC said:

But will virtual keyboard used with eye tracking be useful for a lot of us? (people with some kind of disability could benefit greatly from it). It will still be faster to type on a keyboard.

But eye tracking on videogames, to move the camera to not only our head points, but also our eyes look, that would be great.

Everyone who wants to use a browser or do any typing in VR will use it. It's basically inevitable. I could even see this move to smart devices for regular typing once the eye tracking is advanced enough.

I can't see myself using that. I hope there's an option to turn it off.



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vivster said:
JEMC said:

But will virtual keyboard used with eye tracking be useful for a lot of us? (people with some kind of disability could benefit greatly from it). It will still be faster to type on a keyboard.

But eye tracking on videogames, to move the camera to not only our head points, but also our eyes look, that would be great.

Everyone who wants to use a browser or do any typing in VR will use it. It's basically inevitable. I could even see this move to smart devices for regular typing once the eye tracking is advanced enough.

JEMC said:

I can't see myself using that. I hope there's an option to turn it off.

A virtual keyboard using just eye tracking would be very tiring if used regularly, just try focusing your sight on a series a few tens objects for more than a few tens consecutive times, if you don't believe it, and consider that two lines of text can already exceed one hundred characters.

A virtual keybord using tracking of fingers movements on it could be fine instead, the eye won't be stressed more than when using a real kb, but it will require motion control fine enough to precisely track phalanges to work, and there are others applications that will greatly benefit from VR+motion control so fine, if they even won't be possible at all without, that's the reason why I'm quite sure that this generation of VR devices will start launching VR a lot better than the previous ones, but it won't be the one that makes it mainstream.

Anyway I agree that for people with disabilities current devices could already be a great improvement compared to previous ones.



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JEMC said:
vivster said:

Everyone who wants to use a browser or do any typing in VR will use it. It's basically inevitable. I could even see this move to smart devices for regular typing once the eye tracking is advanced enough.

I can't see myself using that. I hope there's an option to turn it off.

 Why use your hands when you can use your eyes?



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
vivster said:

Everyone who wants to use a browser or do any typing in VR will use it. It's basically inevitable. I could even see this move to smart devices for regular typing once the eye tracking is advanced enough.

JEMC said:

I can't see myself using that. I hope there's an option to turn it off.

A virtual keyboard using just eye tracking would be very tiring if used regularly, just try focusing your sight on a series a few tens objects for more than a few tens consecutive times, if you don't believe it, and consider that two lines of text can already exceed one hundred characters.

A virtual keybord using tracking of fingers movements on it could be fine instead, the eye won't be stressed more than when using a real kb, but it will require motion control fine enough to precisely track phalanges to work, and there are others applications that will greatly benefit from VR+motion control so fine, if they even won't be possible at all without, that's the reason why I'm quite sure that this generation of VR devices will start launching VR a lot better than the previous ones, but it won't be the one that makes it mainstream.

Anyway I agree that for people with disabilities current devices could already be a great improvement compared to previous ones.

We have Kinect, there are several companies working on VR gloves and it's a technology that has very useful applications in other areas besides gaming. We just need someone to find the right mix, tho that will take time.

 

vivster said:
JEMC said:

I can't see myself using that. I hope there's an option to turn it off.

 Why use your hands when you can use your eyes?

Just because you can do it, it doesn't mean that it's better.



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vivster said:
Slimebeast said:
I'm puzzled about the Zen and the supposed 40% increase in IPC, which sounds so damn little for five years of CPU development.

How do popular Intel CPUs in the last few years like Core i7-2600, i7-3770, i7-4790 and i7-6700 compare to each other in gaming performance?

A 6700k is less than 20% faster than a 2600k in games. That is with a 10% higher clock.

However that does not make the Zen improvement impressive as they basically started from the very bottom already.

Wow, less than 20% faster. And that's many CPU generations after the 2600K.

So if Zen manages those extra 40% it will have catched up quite a bit. I'll be very happy about that because I think my FX-6300 is bottlenecking quite many of my games at the moment (GPU is an R9 290).

It's fascinating how slowly CPUs are improving compared with the past.



Alby_da_Wolf said:
vivster said:

Everyone who wants to use a browser or do any typing in VR will use it. It's basically inevitable. I could even see this move to smart devices for regular typing once the eye tracking is advanced enough.

JEMC said:

I can't see myself using that. I hope there's an option to turn it off.

A virtual keyboard using just eye tracking would be very tiring if used regularly, just try focusing your sight on a series a few tens objects for more than a few tens consecutive times, if you don't believe it, and consider that two lines of text can already exceed one hundred characters.

A virtual keybord using tracking of fingers movements on it could be fine instead, the eye won't be stressed more than when using a real kb, but it will require motion control fine enough to precisely track phalanges to work, and there are others applications that will greatly benefit from VR+motion control so fine,

Wow, that's gotta be at least ten years away (a smooth finger tracking experience in a VR context).

VR's gonna be so exciting in the future, but being 40 now I feel I'm going to be an old and weak man by the time it's here.



Stefan.De.Machtige said:
vivster said:

See, that's how you do news, what that so hard?

Gotta love TB's trademark stiff animations and low poly models. They say it's pre-alpha but I doubt a lot is going to change from the current state. The only thing that needs to change is the regenerating health.

The animations won't change because those are the standard Piranha' ones. I don't think i saw much better from them before.

PB is one of my most loved devs, but I'm really a bit dissapointed with what I've seen so far from ELEX...not just animations, but the whole world seems...I don't know...weird. I mean, I recognise their signature landscape design, but overall whole mishmash of tech and medieval seems quite...off.

Pitty they opted for this instead of new Gothic.



HoloDust said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

The animations won't change because those are the standard Piranha' ones. I don't think i saw much better from them before.

PB is one of my most loved devs, but I'm really a bit dissapointed with what I've seen so far from ELEX...not just animations, but the whole world seems...I don't know...weird. I mean, I recognise their signature landscape design, but overall whole mishmash of tech and medieval seems quite...off.

Pitty they opted for this instead of new Gothic.

PB should just have a kickstarter to buy back the IP. I'd probably pledge at least 100 bucks for that.



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