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Forums - Sales Discussion - EAs Wii exclusives--The right idea?

n00b said:
EA's lineup for the Wii is pretty awful, EA Playground just screams "Kiddy console."

well most agree on that playground looks awfull, I would have been more happy if they had used the MySims engine.

I do think that MySims and Boogie is pretty nice, MySims looks enough lego for me too actualy feel that I need to buy it



 

 

Buy it and pray to the gods of Sigs: Naznatips!

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EA has to start thinking gimmicky shallow titles for the Wii if they want to be really successful on it.  I guess the ideas for those are quickly running out and they'll have to spend precious development time trying to figure out ways to tack on the Wii's controls to the game.



@England Seriously what do you mean?



 

 

Buy it and pray to the gods of Sigs: Naznatips!

From some of the efforts we've seen from EA so far (some good, some bad), I guess he means he's even more clueless than EA's worst teams for making new games. ;)



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I think EA Playground could surprise us if they focus on creating about 15-20 really fun, physical, original gameplay mechanics, and put a $40 price tag on it. MySims has great potential, but I think despite their efforts, its going to sell mostly in America and Europe, and not Japan. I think bringing NBA Live over was a good move, and I think Madden, Tiger Woods and Need for Speed will have the potential to be annual million sellers by 2008. And honestly, what's with the "kiddy console" stuff? Is your masculinity somehow threatened by the fact that Wii has games designed for people OTHER than 17 year old males? Or are you just in a bad mood because you can't play Zelda until your mom and little sister finish their Wii tennis match?



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MySims is a good idea for both EA and Ninty because I'm member on the Sims 2 site, and on forums, I hear many Simmers say they would buy a Wii or DS just to get MySims... I know crazy!

As for the other titles, they sound nice too for kids (hey they play vg too, let's not forget them and give them proper games!) I might even try it! XD



Any game can be played by varying people, regardless of demographic. I've been addicted to both Sims on more than one occasion, regardless of its heavy female audience. That does not make those extra demographics a target. Sony doubled the market over the past 10 years. The way they did that was largely by appealing to an older (albeit primarily male) demographic. How'd they do that? Largely with mature games. We're not talking 80 here, but we are going to late 20s/early 30s, a market Nintendo failed to even care about.



Shane said:
EA's plans are good, and they're no doubt what we'll see more of. No need to waste a bunch of money on high budget titles. Games that take advantage of the Wii's controller, mini games, and an emphasis on younger gamers is right where the Wii is at, and then just fill in the holes with ports of their most mass market franchises.

I think it's more that EA got caught off guard and can't get high budget games out for the Wii this year (they usually take more than a year to develop).  Since any big budget games are only a few months into development at this point we won't be hearing about them until later this year or early next year.  As for the announced gameds, only EA Playground is focused towards kids.  I'm not sure why some consider making kid games for kids to play is such a bad thing, I'm glad to see the next batch of 5-10 year olds won't have GTA as one of their first games.  Boogie seems more geared to adults and MySims to girls of all ages.  As a young male I'm not terribly interested in any of those games but as hard as it is for most young male gamers to accept, we aren't the only gamers in the world.  As for Animal Crossing's demographics, head over to an Animal Crossing fansite.  Most of the people in the forums are adult women.  That's not to say they outnumber the teenage and younger crowd but aside from maybe Brain Age it probably has one of the highest shares of adult female gamers.



Shane said:
Any game can be played by varying people, regardless of demographic. I've been addicted to both Sims on more than one occasion, regardless of its heavy female audience. That does not make those extra demographics a target. Sony doubled the market over the past 10 years. The way they did that was largely by appealing to an older (albeit primarily male) demographic. How'd they do that? Largely with mature games. We're not talking 80 here, but we are going to late 20s/early 30s, a market Nintendo failed to even care about.

If that's the case then the sky's the limit with Nintendo's appeal to everyone strategy.  In reality though Sony only expanded the market by reaching into largely untapped PAL regions.  The rest of the growth in the video game industry is natural.  Kid gamers (Atari days) became kid and preteen gamers (NES) who became kid, preteen, and teen (SNES/Genesis), etc.  The market is always naturally aging and thereby expanding.  Also rising incomes and (until recently) video game prices dropping allowed video games to penetrate more income levels.  It, along with the end of the extreme console war on the SNES/Genesis days, also naturally pushed sales up. Selling a PS2 to someone who played Atari or Nintendo at age 10 isn't expanding the market (selling to Euros is).  Nintendo reaching for gamers over 30-35 and women is expanding the market since those are people who never played games before. 



Shane said:
Sony doubled the market over the past 10 years. The way they did that was largely by appealing to an older (albeit primarily male) demographic. How'd they do that? Largely with mature games. We're not talking 80 here, but we are going to late 20s/early 30s, a market Nintendo failed to even care about.

I’d say they did it by targeting more teens (despite what the game rating labels say).  I feel games like Zelda/Mario would appeal more to the late 20s/early 30s crowd than games like GTA.  But that’s just my opinion being almost 30 myself.