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Player2 said:

They're right, because Nintendo still hasn't made that M-rated FPS people has been saying they need to do. Now that will be a game like no other we've seen before.


if you actually heard what they said they in no way mentioned or indicated that they wanted that



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NiKKoM said:
After watching the video.. It must be hard for them to keep seeing those new zeldas and marios cause it reminds them that 25 years after the first games.. they are still a virgin...


i LOL'd!!!!



Player2 said:

They're right, because Nintendo still hasn't made that M-rated FPS people has been saying they need to do. Now that will be a game like no other we've seen before.

Truthfully just thinking about it seems kind of cool though. What kind of fps would nintendo make? They have the metoid prime series  so maybe their next fps might be just as good that appeals to more people. It would be like nintendos version of halo or killzone. Anyways the notion that nintendo making an m rated fps kind of amuses me lol.



Grandia said:

In one point they really are right, Nintendo needs new IPs. Of course the should keep their old IPs every Nintendo Fan loves Zelda, Mario or Pokemon but their last really new core IPs was probably Pikmin and it was created on gamecube 12 years!!!! ago.
Nothing really new since 12 years this slowly starts to get really repetitive and it is ridiculous that they not investing in a few new IPs.

Unless we've decided to completely change the defintion of the word (again), the last "core" new IP they released was, what, Harmoknight? Which was released in Japan late last year. They've come up with a ton of new "core" IPs in the digital space. Even if you're only talking about retail games, the only way you can say Pikmin was the last one was if you ignore such series as Ouendan, Xenoblade, Geist, Trace Memory, Last Story, Steel Diver...

 

You know what, you very clearly have no idea what you're talking about, so I'm just going to save my time and go do something more productive. Yoyo time all up in this bitch!



More hivemind noice pollution. Now that the industry is tired of the 'Nintendo is kiddy' bs, they have all happily droned on to 'Nintendo milks it's franchises' ignoring the slew of new franchises Nintendo has created, some of them with overwhelming cultural and commercial impact.

Stuff like this from GameSpot and other 'experts' makes me feel great about my own powers of reasoning.



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BloodyRain said:
Player2 said:

They're right, because Nintendo still hasn't made that M-rated FPS people has been saying they need to do. Now that will be a game like no other we've seen before.

Truthfully just thinking about it seems kind of cool though. What kind of fps would nintendo make? They have the metoid prime series  so maybe their next fps might be just as good that appeals to more people. It would be like nintendos version of halo or killzone. Anyways the notion that nintendo making an m rated fps kind of amuses me lol.


Metroid Prime is the core FPS Nintendo game, specially Prime 3. It just didn't had blood and gore to be actually rated M, which, in fact, is something I like, because it would be absolutely pointless in to introduce these elements in Metroid's case.



bananaking21 said:
Player2 said:

They're right, because Nintendo still hasn't made that M-rated FPS people has been saying they need to do. Now that will be a game like no other we've seen before.


if you actually heard what they said they in no way mentioned or indicated that they wanted that

And I've never said that they (Gamespot) wanted that game, but we have plenty of people here saying that that's what Nintendo needs to do.



First off, it's spelled STALE. "Stell" is not a word.

Secondly, Super Paper Mario (2D/3D flipping), Super Mario Galaxy (planetoid levels/gravity physics), NSMB Wii (4 player co-op for a platformer), Skyward Sword (motion controlled swordplay done right) might want to have a word with the whole "lack of innovation" thing, not to even mention Wii Sports, Wii Fit, etc.

And if you want to point to ANYONE for "putting out the same thing", "lacking innovation", and "growing stale", why not start with:

Sony
Microsoft
Epic
EA
Activision
Sega
Konami
Capcom
Square-Enix
2K Games
Ubisoft
or any of the endless number of developers whose games they regularly publish.

Pointing to Nintendo and accusing them of milking franchises and doing nothing new, kind of falls spectacularly short of the mark and comes off and incredibly disingenuous when all the (JUST RECENT) games that people love to play, IE Gears of War, God of War, Halo, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock, Tomb Raider, Call of Duty, Madden, etc. etc. etc., are all pretty much the exact same thing every iteration. Sure, the new Tomb Raider is "different", if by "different" you mean "copying what Uncharted does to try and seem modern and relevant".

I'm just saying. Pot calling kettle black. If ANYONE has been doing even the tiniest bit of innovation over the last many years, it's been Nintendo, and not much of anyone else. Yes yes, Sony had it's Wiimote Nunchuck that they've largely abandoned. Microsoft had their Kinect, which while LESS a blatant ripoff by being "controller free", was also notorious for just not working that well, and quite frankly most people want AT LEAST some kind of wand to wave around, instead of flailing around sans-controller. And for all of that, both were merely peripherals which continued to be largely ignored when it came to their actual big game releases.

The GamePad, at least, is rather innovative in it's approach to a home console spectrum.

So regardless, calling Nintendo out for making more of their old franchises and "not being innovative" is rather silly considering the state of the industry as a whole.



I'm pretty sure I read somewhere once that Nintendo would come up with game play mechanics first, then throw their known characters on top of it then refine the game world to the style of the characters, so they are basically constantly improving or innovating game play, but are reusing characters, which is extremely smart considering that that's what a lot of companies are trying to do these days and is a popular way to grab 100% cash cow income in the United States at least.

Just think about how many numbers games we have these days, at least Nintendo does 90% of their games right lol.



RazorDragon said:
BloodyRain said:
Player2 said:

They're right, because Nintendo still hasn't made that M-rated FPS people has been saying they need to do. Now that will be a game like no other we've seen before.

Truthfully just thinking about it seems kind of cool though. What kind of fps would nintendo make? They have the metoid prime series  so maybe their next fps might be just as good that appeals to more people. It would be like nintendos version of halo or killzone. Anyways the notion that nintendo making an m rated fps kind of amuses me lol.


Metroid Prime is the core FPS Nintendo game, specially Prime 3. It just didn't had blood and gore to be actually rated M, which, in fact, is something I like, because it would be absolutely pointless in to introduce these elements in Metroid's case.


Metroid Prime is more of a First Person Adventrue then a FPS