Wowwwww - not saying anything, but I think some person may be going a little bit crazy...
Wowwwww - not saying anything, but I think some person may be going a little bit crazy...
Boutros said:
Since when are we talking about "THE face of gaming"? We're talking about which franchise is currently the most popular and that's Call of Duty. And we're using revenues to come to a conclusion because that's probably the most objective way of comparing something's success. Mario is big but not Call of Duty big. Call of Duty's popularity may or may not fade with time (depending on how the franchise is handled in the future) but it undeniably influenced a whole generation that will in many case remember it more than Mario. Let the future tell the truth. And considering that the CoD series is on Nintendo consoles too I don't see why praising its success is going against Nintendo... I don't even know why Nintendo was brought in a PS3 sales discussion anyway. |
Nintendo was brought up because once again a fan of a certain company decided to say that not only was COD the biggest on their chosen platform but also bigger than Mario in gaming. It wasn't a Nintendo fan who first brought up Nintendo. I honestly think it's wonderful that games are getting such high sales but for god's sake - why bash Nintendo to make a point seem more impressive? It actually has the opposite effect. I really enjoy how Nintendo can stand on its own two feet with head held high and be proud of what it has achieved without having to downplay any other companies successes.
And to say Mario isn't CoD big? I don't even know what to say. Revenue etc fine CoD has that. But in terms of sales and popularity? Just no. I'm not arguing with anyway because there's nothing to argue about. So let's each live in our respective fantasies.
Also why are we ignoring the Mario phenomenon and the fact that it is only released on ONE platform? CoD is multi plat, no? So you're gonna tell me that if it was JUST on PS or Xbox that it would sell the same numbers?
And PLEASE stop calling Mario a "past glory". The fact that new games AND four or five year old games are still selling well and still in the upper reaches in the charts tells me that Mario is very much a force to be reckoned with today.
Again I'm sorry to bring up Nintendo in a PS discussion but when certain people have to make outlandish statements (ie. CoD is the biggest gaming franchise in history - and yes, someone did say that, it's here in this very thread for you to read) I feel I have to speak out. CoD is undoubtedly doing phenomenally well but to say then that it's the biggest gaming franchise in history is BS of the highest order.
Also, why do I come in here if I'm a Nintendo fan (before anybody asks? Because I'm also a PS3 owner, a fan of the console and am pleased that it is having such huge success.
trollmaster85 said:
Oh wow. Wii was dead - because Nintendo would not release any game for it. And they released fricking ZELDA! Run to the store and buy it! Install base on the Wii also much bigger.
It is main zelda game in 5 years. Like it or not, if you are Zelda fan - you will buy it. And Fable Journey example - massive fail. To buy it you must have Kinect and only 20m users buy it - mainly casual. So yeah - massive fail.
You are say you know nothing abou Fable, do you?
Z:TW was lunch title with gimmicky motion controls - yet not even 10m sales.
Z:WW HD - 2m in 2 years max. New Zelda - 4m in 2 years max. |
Right. So are you taking the bet or not?
Let time tell the tale eh?
Besides going by your logic, you support your franchise no matter how bad or expensive the game of a series is. Then explain to me Fable kinect sales. Like it or not, that's the limit of the franchise's power. Even the Fable name couldn't sell that Journey game. Go look at the sales for Link's Crossbow training. Terrible game, sold by the Zelda name.
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Otakumegane said: Then explain to me Fable kinect sales. Like it or not, that's the limit of the franchise's power. Even the Fable name couldn't sell that Journey game. |
Different game. Not the same genre (Rail Shooter != RPG) nor on the same platform (Kinect != Xbox 360). Fable audience - hardcore gamers, were not interested in it. And it is foolish to think somebody thought of this game as major installment.
Otakumegane said: Go look at the sales for Link's Crossbow training. Terrible game, sold by the Zelda name. |
Bundled game with Zapper attachment. Go figure so high sales.
trollmaster85 said:
Different game. Not the same genre (Rail Shooter != RPG) nor on the same platform (Kinect != Xbox 360). Fable audience - hardcore gamers, were not interested in it. And it is foolish to think somebody thought of this game as major installment.
Bundled game with Zapper attachment. Go figure so high sales. |
Still don't see you taking that bet.
Actions speak louder than words. Come on man. I can wait to see how this turns out.
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Otakumegane said: Still don't see you taking that bet. Actions speak louder than words. Come on man. I can wait to see how this turns out. |
Ok, i think new Zelda will sale similar or lower numbers to the new major Fable game (not Kinect exclusive or something).
Approx 3-4m in 2 years.
trollmaster85 said: |
You said that one of the reasons Fable Journey didn't sell too well was because of people also had to get the Kinect, and that's true - but it's also true in the case of SS as well; you had to get motion+ to play that game. So both games needed attachments.
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trollmaster85 said:
Ok, i think new Zelda will sale similar or lower numbers to the new major Fable game (not Kinect exclusive or something). Approx 3-4m in 2 years. |
We got the terms. Mine's next mainline Zelda title sells more than Fable mainline. (If we're ever even getting one)
Conditions? 1 month avatar and sig control?
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