You know, i had almost the exact same thought (since i too am an agnostic).

Yes fewer people are dying which i am glad of. Nobody needs to die because of cultural differences. And to not give in to the IRA would have been bloody and disasterous. Concessions had to be made but the Good Friday Agreement was a disgraceful piece of legislation that allowed terrorists to stand for parliament. Released prisionere who should still be rotting. So your saying that terrorism should be the way forward? Lay down your arms and move to politics instead? Tell me what your thoughts are of an IRA memorial statue being erected in Crossmaglen of bombmaker Sean O'Callahan? Attended by Sinn fein representitives who campaigned to have it payed for by British taxpayers money to the cost of £30,000. But in the same breath they call for British soldier memorials to be taken down because they are antagonistic. Or the calls for the renaming of the Royal Victoria Hospital? Yes, Good Friday brought its peace by putting the terrorists in power. And its a fragile peace at that. 

A majority of Northern Ireland also wish to remain part of the UK. Its not 99% but its a majority. Hardly a ridiculous comparision of fighting for British land. 

My point about historical events is explained when you take the original posters words into context. Claims that she acted like the British Empire and opressed the people throigh the Army were not true. Yes it has happened before but it wasnt under her. That was my whole point. 

America's foreign policy annoys me somewhat, I studied the Cold War in College, their actions were often more provocative than the Soviet Union. Similarly, since the Soviet Union's collapsed, America's policy's have largely gone unchanged, except now, no one is there to directly oppose them (China and Russia don't stop them enough).

Part of it is also my dislike of British politicians who suck up to America too much, far too often do we help you out when it doesn't benefit us in any way and the cons out weigh the pros.

Look, I hate Gerry Adams and I hate Sinn Féin, I really do. The inflammatory gestures you list are awful and characteristic of their petty, small-minded apporach to politics (although kind of irrelevant to the discussion, no?). But is it not better that Adams, McGuinness and their cronies lead their followers away from violence? Like it or not (and I don't) they were the only people that could do so. Their being elected is a crucial stepping stone away from violence and towards politics. Had that not happened you'd have politicians with much less public support and these former IRA men still operating outside of politics. It was of vital importance that the devolved government have as much public support as possible and to be seen as legitimate by as many as possible. I know it's unsavoury to have them in power but the hope is that when they're gone they'll be replaced by people with no such violent history. As you say, peace was bought by putting terrorists in power. That sucks but, given the alternatives, it's well worth it.

As for the Falklands comparison, the reason I said it was ridiculous was because you seemed to think it was somehow contradictory to admire Thatcher's actions there but condemn her actions in NI which it very obviously isn't.

But the very same could of course be said about people who are mourning her death, despite being born after she was PM.

BTW, I wonder how many hypocrites now find it immoral/inacceptable that many people are openly celebrating her death ("Ding dong, the witch/bitch is dead!"), while they were openly celebrating themselves when people like Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein were executed.

I didn't celebrate any of their deaths... although i'd argue there is a marked bit of difference there where people can comfortably sit without being hypocritical.

There's a special place in (the purely hypothetical) hell for unionbusters. Simple as that.

In an addendum, it's due to her policies that you guys would be Switzerland with nukes if not for the EU, just a place to play financial games.

Bad comparison, Maggie Thatcher didn't run a world renowned terrorist organisation which is respsonsible for the murder of thousands of people and also isn't a dictator responsible for the mass genocide of thousands. 

My mates from Liverpool having a party..And I also saw just this:


The bitch is dead!!! Lol!! (ps not my comment it is just what the video in the link shows)..

http://www.deredactie.be/permalink/1.1599871

I'm sure you'll be very sympathetic the day the governement knocks on your door and takes away everything you've worked for.  Do you happen to think putting your life in danger every single day at work doesn't warrant a "above average" salary.  Serious injuries are not uncommon in the mining industry, particularly back then and death is a very real threat.  When you combine the fact the work was so damaging to the health that they are unlikely to get the full benefit of their "great pension scheme" (which has been devalued seriously over the years) it makes me wonder why you seem to think this is purely about money.  What's next, Maggie did all the miners a favour putting them out of such dirty dangerous work, it was actually a blessing for them all?

What jobs did these above average miners expect to pickup after their industry was attacked and dismantled, the tories certainly didn't give a damn and did nothing to help.  It's not a hard concept to grasp that she set out to destroy the unions and the cost didn't matter as long as she got her way.  She did and it meant a death knell for many communities. 

It is indeed history and it will never be forgotten the heartache and damage she caused and will forever be a black stain on her record.  The last 24 hours has proven that people will never forgive and forget. 

Scargill was an idiot and the government played him into a hole he couldn't escape.  While he had a part to play in the way the strikes came about there is no doubting the government wanted the strikes and did nothing to stop them occurring.  They wanted the stand off so they could break the unions stranglehold.  When Scargill eventually leaves this mortal realm he will not be villified like Margaret Thatcher has been this last 24 hours.