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Yeh it's ok.
I know I will be happy when some people here die



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I would say so, yes. For me, it's Chavez most recently, and Kim Jong-Il, Gaddafi and Osama bin Laden before that.

Some people are just so inherently evil that the world is a better place with them gone.



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osed125 said:

Everything he said is correct. And I'm the source here. 

With all due respect, you're not more or less valid as a source to me than all the people that live in Venezuela and cried over Chávez's death.

As someone that lives in Uruguay, I have a good idea of what both sides of the argument claim, and I've seen my fair share of news all these years on this matter. Kinda hard to avoid it, given how much time all media in Latin America dedicated to anything he did or what others said about him.

And no, that video is not correct on many ways. The opposition in Venezuela has actually manifested itself in the country without violent retalliation, as evidenced by how they did it during the elections, for example. And those elections have been proven to be clean by international organizations, with the only criticism I've heard about being the unequal use of the media, which is something I can agree with, from what I know. In addition, the country is objectively better in some ways, like when it comes to the distribution of wealth and poverty. What the video mentions about the food issues is a much complex issue than what he mentions and not entirely the fault of the goverment. And finally, he omits many good things he did regarding aid to other Latin American countries (including my own) and how he was trying to unite the continent, even though I was somewhat skeptical about his reasons to do so. Or the coup d'état (golpe de estado) that tried to take him out of the goverment.

The wikipedia article on Chávez is a much better read than this video, for both the "good" and "bad" about his actions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez

As I said before, there's plenty of things I didn't agree with Chávez, like the way he dealt with criticism, the way he handled the media, his confrontational attitude towards some countries while having good relationships with other rather questionable ones, some of his decisions regarding private property from corporations, etc. All these doesn't erase all the good things he did, at least to me.

This is my last post on this issue. This is quite a long discussion which is even related to other bigger topics, such as economic systems or Latin American history, so as I said before, I don't want to get into it, specially here. I'll read anything you want to add, but I won't reply again.



seiya19 said:
osed125 said:

Everything he said is correct. And I'm the source here. 

With all due respect, you're not more or less valid as a source to me than all the people that live in Venezuela and cried over Chávez's death.

As someone that lives in Uruguay, I have a good idea of what both sides of the argument claim, and I've seen my fair share of news all these years on this matter. Kinda hard to avoid it, given how much time all media in Latin America dedicated to anything he did or what others said about him.

And no, that video is not correct on many ways. The opposition in Venezuela has actually manifested itself in the country without violent retalliation, as evidenced by how they did it during the elections, for example. And those elections have been proven to be clean by international organizations, with the only criticism I've heard about being the unequal use of the media, which is something I can agree with, from what I know. In addition, the country is objectively better in some ways, like when it comes to the distribution of wealth and poverty. What the video mentions about the food issues is a much complex issue than what he mentions and not entirely the fault of the goverment. And finally, he omits many good things he did regarding aid to other Latin American countries (including my own) and how he was trying to unite the continent, even though I was somewhat skeptical about his reasons to do so. Or the coup d'état (golpe de estado) that tried to take him out of the goverment.

The wikipedia article on Chávez is a much better read than this video, for both the "good" and "bad" about his actions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez

As I said before, there's plenty of things I didn't agree with Chávez, like the way he dealt with criticism, the way he handled the media, his confrontational attitude towards some countries while having good relationships with other rather questionable ones, some of his decisions regarding private property from corporations, etc. All these doesn't erase all the good things he did, at least to me.

This is my last post on this issue. This is quite a long discussion which is even related to other bigger topics, such as economic systems or Latin American history, so as I said before, I don't want to get into it, specially here. I'll read anything you want to add, but I won't reply again.

 

Helping other countries is fine. The problem is that my country is almost dying and it's on the verge of an economic collapse, giving free oil to other countries IS NOT an option atm. And thanks to that the external debt is extremely high (I go in more detail in the link below).

I already made a really big post on the matter, especially on this poverty and wealth thing, which people seemed to be talking about a lot since he died, which is not true in many regards. I already gave stories and personal experiences. I could add TONS of more stories and facts, but this is a really long and complex matter, which in a gaming website is probably not the best place to talk about it.

 



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benao87 said:

I couldn't agree more on this post.

Something similar happened in Colombia, when the heads of the rebels die, even the most important newspaper turn to tabloids showing the bodies and the faces of the deceased. I don't need to be a socialist or a rebel to find that fucked up.

Yeah... Sensationalism in media has been an issue in my country too, on different ways... It's ridiculous how much time is dedicated to crime news in my country, with meaningless display of the victims distress or violent crimes that don't add anything to the viewer. Not as graphic as what you're talking about, but well, you guys have other problems...

Hopefully the peace process ends well for your country. My father actually visited there and he mentions from time to time how wonderful of an experience it was and how great the people there are.



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Yes, it is bad that you would find joy in the death of some other human being.
Being happy that he can no longer do anything ridulous or harmful is great, that makes perfect sense and I totally agree. But being happy for his death? I find that to be wrong.