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GameAnalyser said:
foodfather said:

Software is where sales matter. Halo 4 outsold every single PS3 exclusive this year...

RESPECT.


Yeah, the ps3 exclusives had a rough year. 2013 should be a lot better.



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Take out Japan then check your figures again. One region produces a massive skew when the global sales are so close. The reason is simple. There is demand for the PS3 there but not the 360.



slowmo said:
Take out Japan then check your figures again. One region produces a massive skew when the global sales are so close. The reason is simple. There is demand for the PS3 there but not the 360.

Does it matter? The job is to have games that appeal to as many audiences as possible. Not just one or two.

The gap in Japan is ~7.3m
The gap in USA is ~15m

The gap in America is double the gap in Japan. Lets take America out of the picture. See how things look then. After all the real massive "skew" comes from USA.



Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:
Take out Japan then check your figures again. One region produces a massive skew when the global sales are so close. The reason is simple. There is demand for the PS3 there but not the 360.

Does it matter? The job is to have games that appeal to as many audiences as possible. Not just one or two.

The gap in Japan is ~7.3m
The gap in USA is ~15m

The gap in America is double the gap in Japan. Lets take America out of the picture. See how things look then. After all the real massive "skew" comes from USA.


Rubbish, of course the gap in america is bigger as its a lot bigger market.  Market share is the only way to compare them and it backs up my statement that Japan is horribly skewed.



slowmo said:
Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:
Take out Japan then check your figures again. One region produces a massive skew when the global sales are so close. The reason is simple. There is demand for the PS3 there but not the 360.

Does it matter? The job is to have games that appeal to as many audiences as possible. Not just one or two.

The gap in Japan is ~7.3m
The gap in USA is ~15m

The gap in America is double the gap in Japan. Lets take America out of the picture. See how things look then. After all the real massive "skew" comes from USA.


Rubbish, of course the gap in america is bigger as its a lot bigger market.  Market share is the only way to compare them and it backs up my statement that Japan is horribly skewed.

Marketshares? Okay. Lets compare marketshares.

The 360 holds 37.5% of the American marketshare.
The PS3 holds 38.5% of the Japanese market.

They are fairly equal, marketshare-wise, in the respective markets. The PS3 has performed in Japan, just as well as the 360 performed in America. What youre arguing though, is we remove all the hard work from Sony, just because Microsoft are incapable of getting the Japanese to like the 360.

How about you stop crying about it and accept it for what it is? The second biggest videogame market.



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Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:
Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:
Take out Japan then check your figures again. One region produces a massive skew when the global sales are so close. The reason is simple. There is demand for the PS3 there but not the 360.

Does it matter? The job is to have games that appeal to as many audiences as possible. Not just one or two.

The gap in Japan is ~7.3m
The gap in USA is ~15m

The gap in America is double the gap in Japan. Lets take America out of the picture. See how things look then. After all the real massive "skew" comes from USA.


Rubbish, of course the gap in america is bigger as its a lot bigger market.  Market share is the only way to compare them and it backs up my statement that Japan is horribly skewed.

Marketshares? Okay. Lets compare marketshares.

The 360 holds 37.5% of the American marketshare.
The PS3 holds 38.5% of the Japanese market.

They are fairly equal, marketshare-wise, in the respective markets. The PS3 has performed in Japan, just as well as the 360 performed in America. What youre arguing though, is we remove all the hard work from Sony, just because Microsoft are incapable of getting the Japanese to like the 360.

How about you stop crying about it and accept it for what it is? The second biggest videogame market.

If you want to try and insult people and be uncivil, don't be surprised when people ignore you.  Your comparison is still pathetic.



slowmo said:

If you want to try and insult people and be uncivil, don't be surprised when people ignore you.  Your comparison is still pathetic.

I wasnt insulting you, but if you want to come up with ludicrous statements and ideas just so your preference can win, then dont be surprised when people call you out on it.

Whats pathetic is suggesting we ignore the 2nd largest videogame market just because one console sells like shit.



Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:

If you want to try and insult people and be uncivil, don't be surprised when people ignore you.  Your comparison is still pathetic.

I wasnt insulting you, but if you want to come up with ludicrous statements and ideas just so your preference can win, then dont be surprised when people call you out on it.

Whats pathetic is suggesting we ignore the 2nd largest videogame market just because one console sells like shit.

The second biggest market is Europe. Japan is the second largest country for gaming. 

All manufacturers treat Europe as one market.

the Japan thing is relevant. To ignore it is to be mischievous. 

Both the ps3 and the 360 have a meaningful marketshare presense  in every market where they sell. Except in one instance. The marketshare for the 360 in Japan is ridiculously low compared to the size of the market. This is in large part due to a closed and biased home gaming market. Not just gamers, but reviewers, journalists, buyers, stores. It's not meant as an insult, or as a slur, it's just how it is. 

 



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Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:
Take out Japan then check your figures again. One region produces a massive skew when the global sales are so close. The reason is simple. There is demand for the PS3 there but not the 360.

Does it matter? The job is to have games that appeal to as many audiences as possible. Not just one or two.

The gap in Japan is ~7.3m
The gap in USA is ~15m

The gap in America is double the gap in Japan. Lets take America out of the picture. See how things look then. After all the real massive "skew" comes from USA.

When you talk about the "skew", be also reminded a console like 3DS has had  relatively earth shattering figures in Japan and that's when you finalize things with the notion that Japan does not have enough gaming audience and therefore never counts as a significant market. Also the numbers for 360 in Japan speak for themselves. Of course what matters now and for this topic is how PS3 performs relatively in all markets. And prove me wrong if PS3 has performed in US as bad as 360 in Japan.



Carl2291 said:
slowmo said:

If you want to try and insult people and be uncivil, don't be surprised when people ignore you.  Your comparison is still pathetic.

I wasnt insulting you, but if you want to come up with ludicrous statements and ideas just so your preference can win, then dont be surprised when people call you out on it.

Whats pathetic is suggesting we ignore the 2nd largest videogame market just because one console sells like shit.


So you at least conceded that the 360 outsells the PS3 every year without Japan, even if its ludicrous?  That was my point, nothing more or less.  Japan is the only reason this happened.  Its not about winning or losing, its about understanding why this occurred.  The 360 has 7% market share there while the PS3 has 23% in NA.  Japan is clearly massively skewed compared to the rest of the world and its that region alone which made the difference this gen.  I'm not asking he removed them for a comparison to say the 360 won, it was so when you look at the figures without Japan its clear to see that their is no massive extra demand globally for the PS3, they've been very similar outside of Japan.