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Wander_ said:
walsufnir said:

2. "It has the best innovative  exclusives on the market."

-> opinion.


Like you said opinion these are what makes the ps3 out shines all consoles.to me


Sure it is. But some of the other points are quite... doubtful at least. But hey, it's ok to state that one is a fan of a technical device - if arguments are legit is not important if you have a strong opinion ;)



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kain_kusanagi said:
Wander_ said:
Immortal said:
Well, I don't want to argue with stupid and subjective points, but the "most reliable" thing is a joke. PS3 failure rates have only really been good because there's been RROD to compare them to. They're pretty poor overall and not in the least comparable to the norm for Nintendo home consoles.


i don't know about you but i have my 5yo fat PS3 and its still going strong

 

From what I've seen, in real life, the PS3 Fat isn't all that more reliable than the launch 360. The Slim PS3 and Xbox 360 are pretty damn reliable and a lot better than the original versions. That's what I've seen with my own eyes.

Grasping at straws there? PS3's failure rate is nowhere near 360's especially the launch ones. Im yet to see someone replace 5-6 PS3's because of YLOD...32% failure rate ring any bells ? That's almost 1/3 of all 360's dead back then 



simple CD or blu ray or for that matter any versatile disc support since the laser disc..... is probably the worst storage support ever invented and certainly the less reliable..... but go on I like the way you think.... electronic is like food the junkier it gets the more addicted people are to it.....



Player1x3 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Wander_ said:
Immortal said:
Well, I don't want to argue with stupid and subjective points, but the "most reliable" thing is a joke. PS3 failure rates have only really been good because there's been RROD to compare them to. They're pretty poor overall and not in the least comparable to the norm for Nintendo home consoles.


i don't know about you but i have my 5yo fat PS3 and its still going strong

Five of my friends who bought launch PS3's replaced them after they got the yellow light of death. Two of them bought replacment fats because Sony's warrenty was out, one of which stopped reading discs and he had a friend replace the drive. The other two bought Slim PS3 because their warrenty was up, their Slims are still working.

My launch 360 was still working when I sold it to get the Halo 4 Limited Edition 360. My brother's launch 360 got the RROD and MS replaced it for free. Two of my friends got RROD and free replacements more than once and 3 of my friends still have thier original Xbox 360 Elites.

From what I've seen, in real life, the PS3 Fat isn't all that more reliable than the launch 360. The Slim PS3 and Xbox 360 are pretty damn reliable and a lot better than the original versions. That's what I've seen with my own eyes.

Grasping at straws there? PS3's failure rate is nowhere near 360's especially the launch ones. Im yet to see someone replace 5-6 PS3's because of YLOD...32% failure rate ring any bells ? That's almost 1/3 of all 360's dead back then 

"Grasping at straws?" I find that offensive.

I'm going by what I've seen around me. The launch systems of both companies failed. Most likely due to lead free solder forced on them at the last minute. It took them revisions to fix the issue. That's why both the RROD and the YLOD require solder reflow to fix.

The most I've seen, in real life, an Xbox get sent in is twice back in the early days. One of my friends sent in his launch 360 for RROD and then a year later got another RROD, but he still has the third one MS sent him for free. I've heard stories on the internet of people going through 4-6 360s, but like anything on the internet, including your 32% stat, I take it with a grain of salt. If that 32% figure is true, it's only true for the very first batch of 360s and does not represent the entire line.

Like I said before, after giving a detailed history of what I've witnessed which you did not quote, whave I've seen with my own eyes is that the launch PS3 is not much MORE reliable than the launch 360. As you can see I said it was more reliable, I just haven't seen evidence that it's considerably more reliable.

You can think what you want of me, but I go by what I've seen in real life, not what fanboys spew on the internet in stupid console hate wars.



bananaking21 said:
Kresnik said:
Oh dear.


im thinking about starting a thread like this, tons of users will reply, people will get banned, flaim wars will start and with every post i get 2 points! :D