hahaha, retard flippers

been watching this particular posting since you posted this thread:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-Wii-U-w-Nintendo-Land-Game-Deluxe-Set-32-GB-Black-Console-Brand-New-/150963206591?pt=Video_Games&hash=item23261bb9bf

started at 315 and now its up over 370 with 8 minutes left...I know that doesn't really say much, but still...interesting (to me at least)

EDIT: ended at over 400$ before shipping. I guess some people are still making a profit

This is actually a pretty dismal sign. What we have here are some scalpers that ended up getting caught out in the cold by some disadvantageous return policies. That doesn't mean that many of the more competent scalpers didn't in fact return their machines for full refunds. It is fairly reminiscent of what happened with the launch of the PS3. It means that sales may end up having to be corrected early next month, because sales that were counted. Ended up not being sales at all.

With twenty thousand listings. One has to wonder how many sales were scalp sales to begin with. It would seem to be a sizable percentage. The upside is that even with factoring in a high ratio of scalp sales. The platform is still outperforming the PS3 during its launch. It all may end up a little disappointing, but hardly doomed. Anyway it isn't like we were expecting a Wii type of success with the console. Even if it has sold as little as half a million units to end users in North America that is hardly anything to sneer at, and I doubt anyone considers a thirty percent scalp ratio to be plausible. Now ten percent I can probably see that.

It is a good question though what do you guys think is the scalp ratio on the console?

I don't think there are that many scalpers in general, but I do think the combination of strong supply and (relative to the Wii) weaker demand has really undermined sales ...

To put numbers to it, with the Wii there were probably 500,000 people who really wanted a system for Christmas that couldn't find one, of which 50,000 were willing to pay a scalper and the lack of available supply resulted in 10,000 systems being for sale; and those systems sold for a large profit. In contrast with the Wii U there are probably 150,000 people who want the system for Christmas and can't find one, of which 15,000 are willing to pay scalpers, and (with a more available supply of systems) 20,000 systems for sale; and the re-sale prices are depressed.

Good. Those scalpers hoping for another Wii-style bonanza got what was coming to them.

The only problem with your numbers is that the Wii U is in stock pretty everywhere, now.  So again, low sales numbers in the charts has nothing to do with stock issues.  If you want a Wii U, you can buy one.

Still 1337 consoles to go. Come on guys put your bid.

You do realize that the most recent sales numbers have the Wii U selling (roughly) as may as the Wii did at a similar point in the USA ... Which is (roughly) equal to the PS3 and XBox 360 combined at a similar point after launch.

From the (very limited) information we have, the Wii U has seen a very strong launch in North America and Japan but it is struggling in Europe. Why it is selling so poorly in Europe is unknown, but even then sales aren't that bad in Europe ...

There's always a lot of bids in final minute.... plus shipping and your over retail. Granted its still low overall, but nothing crazy.

Threads like these are why Microsoft and Ninty fans get along. This comes no where near qualifying as news. If you buy items on eBay for more than retail, you're doing it wrong.