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It's not news that Nintendo themselves can do it. Of course they can. The issue is that they have a complete disregard for their customer's right to the product they've bought.

Like if you wanted to sell your Wii, the terms and conditions actually saiythat you HAVE TO delete your Wii Shop account and lose all your purchases. Yes, you can buy a Wii U and transfer, blabalbla. That is not an argument. The point is that Nintendo belives all the stuff you bought still belongs to them and not to the person who bought it.

They are NOT a consumer-friendly company, just because they transfer your stuff if you have a broken console.

That the "cloud" wasn't ready is not a believable argument, you dont need a cloud to register user accounts. They are consumer-unfriendly, and they are useless at online. They obviously only made the Wii U transfer tool because they knew it would be an outrage if they didnt, but they didnt even manage to merge the Wii Shop into the Wii U Shop, its a joke of a service.

Maybe it will improve in the future. Maybe. They have had 6 years to build an online service that works, they should have been ready. They weren't.



I've had 3 PS3 this gen and none of them had any issue while they were covered by the warranty so this isn't good enough....( number 2 still works but the Blu Ray reader has issues with double layer blu ray and it was Chrismas so I gifted myself a 420Gb Infamous 2 PS3 ).

Besides what if you want to have 2 WiiU in the house and be able to access the games you purchased on both ?



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Immortal said:

I wasn't talking about what I quoted. I was talking about the two original quotes, as in, the "Nintendo doesn't know how to do online" one and then the "Sony/MS don't know how to make consoles" one. Talking about your personal experience, while rather pointless and irrelevant, is completely alright and I wasn't calling it trolling at all. My mistake if I didn't make that clear. I definitely agree that what sethnintendo said was very damage control-ish, though, even if it was arguably warranted.


I was not trying to be a trol when i made my first comment. I was giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt because they have never been known up to yet of being a networking type company. Will they change this policy? Maybe. 

Other people have just typed one word answers which are negative in response to this article and they are not quoted for trolling. I was just suggesting a reason as to why Nintendo may have made this decision.



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Serious_frusting said:
sethnintendo said:
Serious_frusting said:
Oh my days.

Why so many issues? Saying that though, nintendo is new to all this "proper" networking stuff.


Just like Microsoft and Sony were new to consoles and didn't make reliable hardware till recently.


Speak for yourself, I have never had  a Sony console break on me. My PS1/2/3 all still work.


Well anectodal evidence is just that, I mean I had 3 ps1's break on me and 2 ps2's . (Still have my launch gamecube and launch wii) and am currently on my 3rd Xbox 360. Though my launch Wii U was DOA (it did not play discs) nintendo has been much more reliable when it comes to hardware to me over the years. 



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Serious_frusting said:


I was not trying to be a trol when i made my first comment. I was giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt because they have never been known up to yet of being a networking type company. Will they change this policy? Maybe. 

Other people have just typed one word answers which are negative in response to this article and they are not quoted for trolling. I was just suggesting a reason as to why Nintendo may have made this decision.


Alright, fair enough. It just came off as a little provocative, which is probably what led the other guy to damage control. Besides, even if you had been trolling, I think it was tame enough for it to be allowed to pass. At least you're elaborating on why you think Nintendo isn't doing this right.



 

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ksv said:
It's not news that Nintendo themselves can do it. Of course they can. The issue is that they have a complete disregard for their customer's right to the product they've bought.

Like if you wanted to sell your Wii, the terms and conditions actually saiythat you HAVE TO delete your Wii Shop account and lose all your purchases. Yes, you can buy a Wii U and transfer, blabalbla. That is not an argument. The point is that Nintendo belives all the stuff you bought still belongs to them and not to the person who bought it.

They are NOT a consumer-friendly company, just because they transfer your stuff if you have a broken console.

That the "cloud" wasn't ready is not a believable argument, you dont need a cloud to register user accounts. They are consumer-unfriendly, and they are useless at online. They obviously only made the Wii U transfer tool because they knew it would be an outrage if they didnt, but they didnt even manage to merge the Wii Shop into the Wii U Shop, its a joke of a service.

Maybe it will improve in the future. Maybe. They have had 6 years to build an online service that works, they should have been ready. They weren't.


Excellent post, agreed with everthing. I kinda regret buying a lot of stuff for the Wii, not living in the US I don't know what will I do if it breaks, I invested a lot in it, specially the Virtual Console.



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Trunkin said:
Viper1 said:

I think this relates to the cloud servie they are working on.   The company they partnered with (Mozy, Inc) didn't have it all ready in time for launch so they had to tie accounts to the console.   Once the cloud service launches next year, I expect accounts will be unleashed from the console.

I've heard nothing about this cloud service. I hope you're right about it launching next year, though.

There is no doubt that Nintendo has done a poor job comminicating all things Wii U.  The cloud service is one of them.

http://www.slashgear.com/nintendo-wii-u-will-have-cloud-storage-15228468/
http://wiiudaily.com/2012/05/nintendo-to-offer-wii-u-cloud-storage-for-save-games-and-player-profiles/

ksv said:

That the "cloud" wasn't ready is not a believable argument, you dont need a cloud to register user accounts. They are consumer-unfriendly, and they are useless at online. They obviously only made the Wii U transfer tool because they knew it would be an outrage if they didnt, but they didnt even manage to merge the Wii Shop into the Wii U Shop, its a joke of a service.

The 'cloud issue' is a believable argument if, IF, and I'm admitting if here, if the cloud service is the backbone for the unlocked user account system.  If Nintendo (see, if again) had planned to have unlocked accounts (which, by the way is a cloud in itself since cloud just means software as a service) and the backbone of that system was not ready yet (thanks to Mozy, Inc) then it makes a lot of sense why in the interim that it's locked to the system it's registered from.

Also, the Wii shop is a part of the Wii software suite so it's not part of the Wii U internal software.  The Wii U has to be rebooted into Wii mode to even access the Wiii software suite.  However, they are already redesigning the Wii U eShop to include the older Wii shop.

Did Sony and MS have evertyhing ready day 1?  Of course not.  So why are you expecting anyone else to have everythign ready day 1?

And if you don't mind, change you tone a little.  Hostility gains you nothing but retailiation.  And instead of lively debate, we get heated exchanges that get us nowhere.   Thanks.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
Immortal said:
Serious_frusting said:
sethnintendo said:


Just like Microsoft and Sony were new to consoles and didn't make reliable hardware till recently.


Speak for yourself, I have never had  a Sony console break on me. My PS1/2/3 all still work.


Then you're probably in the minority. A few unbiased Google searches can show you that, in general, both Sony and MS console failure rates are significantly worse than those of Nintendo. Mind you, this whole discussion is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand so the person you're quoting really shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.

I guess a troll comment got a troll comment in response, huh? :P

how the heck is that a troll comment in response? He is just giving his opinion based on his experience. Not even sure how you can even try and explain how that would be 'trolling;

from my personal experience I have yet to have a single home console break from PS. But my psp's broke twice. Once was genuinely my fault the other it wasn't. 

The comment he was responding to however had other intentions. Damage controlling at it's finest in that one. Has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand

anyway OT: still lame. Hope they fix it soon. Such backward thinking


All my playsation consoles failed several times.

Ps3 only once, so they have improved since the old days. PS3 i pretty much got lemon to begin with, so technically it was manufacturing fault from the start.